New NMs

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Originally Posted by Quatre

Everyone finds it incredibly easy to forget the fact that Dynamis Lord Loot was harder to Acquire than most every 24 hour HNM, HQ Version or not.

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What? Are you out of your mind? Dynamis Lord was nothing. You can kill him every dynamis if you wanted to all you needed was melee and RDMs who weren't failures.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Don't forget, you offered to invite me to your LS at one point! ^_^

I believe a casual player is defined more by what they do while they're in-game rather than how much time they spend playing. Plants vs. Zombies is considered a "casual" game, yet most people I know who play it do so for hours upon hours.

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You're cool Kiki o: I don't have any problems with FoW either.

I sort of agree with you there... but then again someone could spend their whole time leveling Botanist and Mining and Fishing and have them all at 50 already. They are not necessarily out for all the high level gear but I would still consider them a hardcore player because they invest so much time in the game... but this is sorta getting off topic now.

Again, people would complain about something like DL with a 5% or less drop rate on shadow ring because everyone wouldnt have it in a month, and DL isnt/wasnt hard to get to, im sorry for your ls. like 12 people could get to DL in -1hr and change jobs to a zerg setup > re-enter > kill > warp out. Only reason for more people is to farm and still... 40? Maby 18.

40 people just means people dont know how to use tp/ws/hmp gear sets, food, proper pathing, prob wiping every 5min's.

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Originally Posted by Quatre

I think this is quite ridiculous, asking for 24-hour NMs


Everyone finds it incredibly easy to forget the fact that Dynamis Lord Loot was harder to Acquire than most every 24 hour HNM, HQ Version or not.


Dynamis Lord loot wasn't hard to acquire because it was on a random ass spawn timer, in fact you could challenge him any time you wanted to. But it really required a lot of work to get to him, and once you reached him it was pretty challenging to defeat him, especially as a solo LS who could only pull maybe ~40 members max in your Dynamis.




I would LOVE Content to match this movement, Along with the entire Sea system, Where you find items to pop first tier, who drop second tier pop items etc.

Or just do Dungeons, Aion took an interesting approach where sometimes when you ran a dungeon the "HQ" Version of a boss would spawn. I thought that was extremely clever and a cool mix of the FFXI System and the WoW Dungeon system.




There are many routes to take for exciting new content, and 24-hour highly contest pop NMs are a thing of the past, and add almost nothing to gameplay.

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This post is pure money. Perfection wants 24 hr NMs because they're the only shell that has enough TIME to waste getting to them. Time isn't what makes a player hardcore, but they somehow think that if the have 24 hr NMS and they have enough members that they can force to get on at 3 am in the morning, they are more leet than everyone else.

Like you said, you don't have to have a rare spawn to make gear rare.

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Originally Posted by Randis

Nope, its just about camping and botting.

I suggested in some earlier post to have a NM that spawns only once in a week (random dayP, in a completely random location, with a VERY low drop rate.
You can’t camp it, now that i would love!

Setting alarmglock to compete with some bots??? been there, done that.
no, thanks!

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Ixion and Sandworm were sort of like that. People still camped them.

As said before. Bots don't work.

Also, no one is forcing you to wake up at 4 am and camp it.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Making something take all day to camp and wait for will go against the statement made when you select Start on the main menu.........

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Didn't stop XI back in the day did it?

I find it massively funny that someone is still arguing that wasting a ton of time doing nothing else than waiting equals to be "hardcore" or to deserving more than others.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Didn't stop XI back in the day did it?

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Bolded the key part. Times have changed. Thankfully.

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Originally Posted by Jeronlmo

Its every 21-24, and its still not the fact that it can spawn every 21-24hrs, its keeping the gear rare, it needs to be fairly hard to kill, not pop that often, and low drop-rates on really good drops, if the whole server can get the item in a month its not worth puting in the game.

I could just imagine having the HNM's in 11 at 1hr respawns.

[Fafnir just dies]
/l (Leader) well... everyone but you in ls has ridill so you can lot it.
/l (Random guy) well... my inv is full... should i drop a rainbow cloth for it?
/l (Leader) na.

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that convo can happen now with 24 hr pop because by now everyone who wanted rid gots one.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Ixion and Sandworm were sort of like that. People still camped them.

As said before. Bots don't work.

Also, no one is forcing you to wake up at 4 am and camp it.

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if done right it cant be camped.

No one is forcing me? are you kidding? I want the best gear, i am not a lite gamer.
But i want to play the game when i choose to and not when the game is forcing me to play.


Anyways, I am never against long respawn times, but I am against camping.

You should understand that most HNM ls's are very large, given some people play much more than others, but its not always the same people around the clock, they invite people in most timezones so its always there ls getting drops, they take care of there own.

Even though i would love 21-24hr respawns with 1hr windows, 3hrs wasnt bad either. Do you really think we sat there for 3hrs strait? Even though its a 3hr window total, the actual windows were 30min's appart, people would do homework/eat dinner/spend time with familly then for 2 min's watch the screen and pay attention, if something popped, they take 5-10min's to kill then do w/e.

I dont think ive seen the 30min windows mentioned once.