[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

It also mostly impacts endgame content because that's where you're trying to optimize. At least, relatively speaking. I disagree with the OP though, 190-200 ping is awful. But it's also not something to quit the game over. Just get WTFast/Battleping.

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Especially if one lives in continental NA, flipping East and West in regards of connection issues, requiring either side to get a paid 3rd party tool to dodge the issues is pretty much a spiked club to the face.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

The issue on the network is in a different location unrelated what they're doing at the datacenter. It's an NTT infrastructure problem.

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That would imply America gives a shit about its internet infrastructure problems. They don't. Not unless we get massive overhauls and other fancy bits regarding the FCC, it's going to be tedious.

I'm east coast....went from 30-40 to 80-90. Still 2 digits, so probably won't notice a difference in actual gameplay.

I think most of the high pings are due to the way your ISP routes your internet traffic. Seems like they like to take the longest route possible. So before going off the bandwagon and blaming SE, please check the way that your ISP routes your internet traffic.

Also, I believe that it could depend on how old your equipment that you use to connects to the internet. Things to question is: Is your Cable/DSL modem new or order? How old is the Cable or Phone line going from the pole to your home? Things do wear out over time and doesn't perform to it's standards and should be replaced. Plus, if you have all newer equipment, that doesn't mean that your ISP has newer equipment. All we know is that they can be using outdated stuff and also that can effect your performance even if you have newer equipment at your house or where you live.

But I do feel for the people who plays outside of the US that plays on the NA Servers. I feel that no matter where SE placed the Servers, it wouldn't of gotten any better for you.

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Originally Posted by dlgc

I am in Edmonton and yet my ping is only 97ms o.o

Cheers,
D.

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Same area just did it telus

neolobby02.ffxiv.com [204.2.229.9] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 204.2.229.9: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=55
Reply from 204.2.229.9: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=55
Reply from 204.2.229.9: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=55
Reply from 204.2.229.9: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.9:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 70ms, Maximum = 72ms, Average = 70ms

I know Montreal used to go from Edmonton down through Chicago and back up into Canada for me.

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Originally Posted by Sida

Made me imagine some small car trying to navigate in some festival avenue beforehand to check the route, just to be stuck in the midds of the trucks that are taking the equipment there, and ending up cursing the congested traffic. Possibly totally unrelated ^^

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Actually, that makes me laugh at everyone checking their connection while SE is probably flooding their connection right now moving files. Unless for some reason they actually shipped the current servers to the new location and thought they could set it all up in 2 days. Possible, but a pain in the butt.

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Originally Posted by Kallistra

My girlfriend lives in Canada and she just watched her ping go from 100 to 480.

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Wow seriously?? What province is Selli in though, if I may ask?

I am in Ontario and my ping is around 80-100 ms now

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Originally Posted by Bizzy

...But I do feel for the people who plays outside of the US that plays on the NA Servers. I feel that no matter where SE placed the Servers, it wouldn't of gotten any better for you.

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Well, maybe it wouldnt get any better, but they actually made WAY worse for a lot of people. Ok, its better for some people from US, but honestly, going from 90 to 50 is basically a 0 difference, gameplaywise. Meanwhile, my ping went from 180 to 260. Its already not so easy to adapt to a high ping, specially if you raid or if you use classes that have a lot of double weaving skills and shit like that on rotation. But with 260 ping its honestly really REALLY hard and probably not even worth to try.
Thanks SE. Very good move.

Will be interesting to see how this will affect me all the way in New Zealand, then again I've learnt to adjust to a constant 300+ ping so it doesn't really bother me much.

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Originally Posted by Eothas

So true, I don't want to complain about my ping/latency before the servers are live, but if it's true that the servers are in Sacramento, well, that would be extremely stupid. Square basically screwed EC players a bit, EU players playing on NA, SA players (specifically Brazil) playing on NA and some Canadians perhaps? Like... wtf. Square should see how RIOT/Tencent (one of, if not the most,sucessful gaming company) handled their NA servers for League of Legends.



Yes, LoL ≠ FFXIV but that's not the point. So yeah, why not choose a centralized location? zzzzz. Don't forget that even if some of you are happy with the new location, you will find players in DF/PF that have been negatively affected by it and guess what? You will have to play with them (if they don't unsub), so don't complain about wipes or poor performance, that's on S.E.

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Originally Posted by Kethic

It's a fair question, but I imagine they thought about it more than people in this thread are giving them credit for.

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People are reflecting the correct amount of credit they deserve, this is what you run into when you lack communication, it is deserving. For me, they have not shown they did any research on what the best location may be for ping values. I suspect they do not care because under 200 ms= playable, and so far I do not see proof of that. Even at 40 ms I need to know the fights and predict the moves otherwise I will be hit even though I am out of the circle. People complain about cleric being weird at times when it comes to clicking it, unresponsive it is called, again this has to do with the poor processing with the servers and the lag I am referring to. So our only hope is the processing power really hits the mark and that under 200 ms = playable is truly the case. They are assuming this will be the case so they did not care about researching ping values for different locations for different people.

SE is lacking this:
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/You...oon-78187.html

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Moderate latency increases (up to ~45 ms) in the Pacific Northwest and outlying regions (Hawaii, other Pacific Islands, Japan, etc)
Minor latency increases (up to ~30 ms) across the rest of the west coast of North America.
Generally neutral effects across a broad strip of the Mountain States and Saskatchewan
Moderate to major latency reductions (up to ~50 ms for much of the East Coast) across the entire eastern half of North America

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Doing that (showing research) and people will give them more credit. Going "Lul this will hurt people from the EU, does not show they care about the concerns of this other then hoping under 200 ms = works (right now it doesn't we will see tomorrow)

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

To the people constantly telling everyone to "stop complaining" and "wait and see", could you kindly just leave us be?

Some of you people have WAY too much faith in SE, to the point it's worrying. They make mistakes. They've made plenty in the past, and they're about to make one now. Voicing our concern with this is perfectly reasonable. They made a silly decision, and hopefully if the negative response is big enough they'll rethink it and move their servers to a central location in time where everyone can be happy.

Since when did waiting and pretending everything would just work out ever lead to anything good? Criticism is what pushes things forward, not sugarcoating and white knighting. We have horrendous balance issues to the point where tanks and healers couldn't get a new job for 4.0 because everyone wanted to pretend things are fine. Just think about that for a second.

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I agree with the point, but disagree on the waiting thing in specific for this moment. We need to wait and actually test the game, the old servers where very bad and we may see improvements despite the increased ping.

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Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Oh jeez, Ricochet already delays my next GCD regardless of how much I spam the button. And even just using Fuma Shuriken has a lag. Suddenly not looking forward to this very much :l

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Use 1 ogcd in between gcds, remember the cast needs to finish the recast before the next one, doing only one ogcd in between gcd should not clip. however the new servers may process better, so never know.

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Originally Posted by anryo

Well, maybe it wouldnt get any better, but they actually made WAY worse for a lot of people. Ok, its better for some people from US, but honestly, going from 90 to 50 is basically a 0 difference, gameplaywise. Meanwhile, my ping went from 180 to 260. Its already not so easy to adapt to a high ping, specially if you raid or if you use classes that have a lot of double weaving skills and shit like that on rotation. But with 260 ping its honestly really REALLY hard and probably not even worth to try.
Thanks SE. Very good move.

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Yeah this is why a more center place would been better. Too little people get something out of it, and those that do is a little amount, while more people lose out while for higher amounts.

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Originally Posted by Hestzhyen

I just want to show you guys something.

http://imgur.com/a/RjIjU
http://imgur.com/a/RjIjU

On the left is my friend. He lives in southern NJ and has to use Comcast (no other providers in his area). On the right is me. I live in northern DE and chose Verizon (Comcast is also available here). We both pinged the same address at the same time and got very, very different results. The geographic difference between our locations is negligible when we're pinging out to CA- but his times are almost double mine. How your ISP routes your information matters far more than your physical location if you're in NA connecting to a NA server. He's going to have to use WTFast or something similar to re-route the information to get his latency down to match mine despite us living just an hour and a half apart.

Also, we won't know for sure where they're going to be until they're live, so save the panic for when they're up and you can no longer dodge landslides in Titan EX. :P

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comcast is crap though, I wish I could get Verizon, lol