Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

On a side note, if you do not do HT from the flank, you do not get the RoT proc. If you do, it procs.

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Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn

Quick question: how much extra dps over the long run would heavy thrust at flank be, compared to staying at rear with it?

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It's 70 potency every 20 seconds. So that's a 3.5 PPS difference.

According to EMX's worksheet, it's a loss of around 15 DPS at i135.

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Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn

No i mean heavy thrust. I tested it and If you are at the flank and use heavy thrust, it does more damage. Use it at the rear, does less damage.

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I hope that's intended, we'd still need to hit the positionals to maximize dps.

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Originally Posted by Dervy

Yup! At i135, it'll be around 8 DPS loss unbuffed. Essentially, there's a very small gap now between good and lazy players.

Also, I'm considering just saving Life Surge for BFB. Yeah sure, it's a DPS increase to just use it off the bat now at every Full Thrust, but nothing lines up. It doesn't even line-up with Full Thrust correctly either.

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really? my IR/LS/FT lines up perfectly now just did a 4min parse at i119 was at 553dps :) i cant wait to get full BIS i135

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Originally Posted by ish007xx

really? my IR/LS/FT lines up perfectly now just did a 4min parse at i119 was at 553dps :) i cant wait to get full BIS i135

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Would you mind giving some more info ? :)

Food, party buff, on dummy, pots, ilvl of the weapon, was the crit rate uncaracteristically high ?

Thanks !

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Originally Posted by Iselore

I hope that's intended, we'd still need to hit the positionals to maximize dps.

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If you wanna max your dps then yes it still needs to hit flank, however it means you're not punished as harshly if you can't get to flank (say in t11 you are tethered at rear and you don't trust the person to move with you or something)

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Originally Posted by Casper

Would you mind giving some more info ? :)

Food, party buff, on dummy, pots, ilvl of the weapon, was the crit rate uncaracteristically high ?

Thanks !

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no food or pots,party buff yes, weapon i130, im ilvl119 could check me out on loadstone for the rest of my gear, the crit rate was 28% (just got it) some1 else was parsing me im on ps3

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Originally Posted by ish007xx

no food or pots,party buff yes, weapon i130, im ilvl119 could check me out on loadstone for the rest of my gear, idk the crit rate some1 else was parsing me im on ps3

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Thanks ! :)

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Originally Posted by ish007xx

really? my IR/LS/FT lines up perfectly now just did a 4min parse at i119 was at 553dps :) i cant wait to get full BIS i135

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What's your Skill Speed at? I'm currently running 481, so that might of been my issue. And what's your IGN so I can check you on the Lodestone?

Christmas has come early my fellow Dragoons. Loving these buffs.

On a side note, I've noticed that the Shiva Ex weapons have been buffed to i115. I'm currently still working on my Nexus, so would the Shiva spear be better for now? My Novus is melded with 15 Acc, 30 Crit and 30 Det (couldn't afford more Crit and Det at the time - will respec in the future). I don't know what the new stats on the True Ice Spear are, but at i110 it had 44 Accuracy and 31 Crit. Is the extra weapon damage and slightly more crit worth losing 30 Det?