Recipe changes in 1.19

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

No, it's a testament to how difficult it is to disseminate such a large amount of information in a short time frame.

It has nothing to do with the quality of the changes themselves. (which are fine)

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I wouldn't really take anything Kiote says seriously

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Originally Posted by Holland

Ok this is how I see it: Players that dont have any craft leveled already tried the system. It sucked for us, so a lot of us didn't bother with it. SE noticed there is flaw in the system, so they attempt to fix it so more players try it out. No one has tried this update yet, so no one really knows how it will pan out. I rather try this out and see if I like it then see no changes at all and no craft at all.

I understand you are concerned for us and are thinking only for our well being and ejoyment, I thank you for that. But please, I didn't ask you to advocate on my behalf to SE. So stop and let me see for myself if I will like it or not. As opposed to you, I understand SE might do anything they feel like is right to this game and my role is only to see what they come up with and then provide feedback. They are the game developers not me, I'm just a tester and rest assured, if I dont like the changes I will provide feedback.

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but see that's the point. i was not trying to speak for you or anyone else, but you come on attacking me. i was not saying recipe changes were not needed and they may have been needed even to this extent. i am glad that those of you like them. i am not a fan to the drastic extent they went with them, but some modification was needed.

ALL i was saying is that the majority of issues that have been stated about crafting were not about this one issue. i heard more complaints about the boring mini game and the standard bashing while watching tv as more common issues. this was my concern. the people that didn't like crafting for those reasons are still not having those issues worked on. if the majority complains about those areas and they work on something for a smaller portion first that gives me concerns that the more common complaint isn't going to get addressed at all.

maybe that is a little more of an explanation of why i said the people that didn't like it before will likely still not like it after. i was not talking about all, but just the majority i have seen in game and in the forums complaining about crafting.

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Originally Posted by Holland

The crafting recipes could not stay the way there are now, that is a fact.

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FACT? Ok i have said enough in this forum already, waay too much i think.
Thanks for playing peeps. :) :) :)

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

but see that's the point. i was not trying to speak for you or anyone else, but you come on attacking me.

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I mentioned this in another thread for another response you made. You seem to have a sense of persecution. I did not attack you in any of my posts. Yes, I had to laugh to your posts about what you think about the old-recpies and the new ones, but also also said I was sorry right after, like friends do when making fun of each other.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

FACT? Ok i have said enough in this forum already, waay too much i think.
Thanks for playing peeps. :) :) :)

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/sigh. The fact that the ones making this game decided this was a needed change did not give you this clue?.

Edit: Ah, but wait, I am sure you know better? go and apply for a job for SE. ^^

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Originally Posted by Holland

I mentioned this in another thread for another response you made. You seem to have a sense of persecution. I did not attack you in any of my posts. Yes, I had to laugh to your posts about what you think about the old-recpies and the new ones, but also also said I was sorry right after, like friends do when making fun of each other.

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yeah, sorry when i say attacking it is just a figure of speech. i do not mean it as you are actually coming to my house abusing the wife and forcing me to watch lol.

when i say attacking me it's more along of the lines of that i have an opinion and just because you disagree with it you decide to come and make fun of the other person's point instead of actually discussing it with them. yes, making fun of someone's views is in a way attacking the person. if i make fun of your religious, political, social, family, or moral beliefs i am attacking you in that same figure of speech translation.

you will see me make that statement more than once just because it's a figurative and not a literal translation.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

yeah, sorry when i say attacking it is just a figure of speech. i do not mean it as you are actually coming to my house abusing the wife and forcing me to watch lol.

when i say attacking me it's more along of the lines of that i have an opinion and just because you disagree with it you decide to come and make fun of the other person's point instead of actually discussing it with them. yes, making fun of someone's views is in a way attacking the person. if i make fun of your religious, political, social, family, or moral beliefs i am attacking you in that same figure of speech translation.

you will see me make that statement more than once just because it's a figurative and not a literal translation.

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I understood what you meant by attacking. But realize you are still saying "this" was better "that" way. when in three days the changes are in and there is no going back until everything has been tested by the players. As I said in my original post, let it go. Test the new system and then provide feedback.

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Originally Posted by Holland

I understood what you meant by attacking. But realize you are still saying "this" was better "that" way. when in three days the changes are in and there is no going back until everything has been tested by the players. As I said in my original post, let it go. Test the new system and then provide feedback.

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yes, i do know what you mean. i'm going to test it anyways since i am full time crafting and gathering until at least 1.20. i'm waiting on the battle system to get completed before i go back and finish my last few classes.

if you go by the history on these forums if you do not say something to voice your concerns before the changes though you will be constantly flamed if you say anything bad about it after. if you don't believe me look at the battle changes for example. let myself or anyone else say anything bad about it and see how quickly they get flamed.

I have a question regarding dyeing items with the new system. I understand there are all purpose dyes that can be used across all materials BUT does that actually mean I can use any available color for any item? Because as I read the new recipe list color options appear even more limited then they are now. So is the new list not all inclusive to show that any colorable item can be made any color available or is dyeing truely all purpose and across the board.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

YES!
Silver Ingot: Gets melted and coats/engraves the weapon head.

Undyed Canvas: used to be wrapped around the weapon haft to give a good grip at it.

Brimstone: used to grind the blade of the weapon.

Scale Glue: used to glue the weapon head on the haft.

Storm Axe Head: the weapon head itself.

Maple Axe Haft: the weapon haft used to hold and swing the weapon.

Silver Axe Butt: used to keep the weapon wooden haft from splitting and deal lethal blows.

^^This is a weapon recipe!

Steel Ingot
Walnut Lumber
Silver Ingot

^^How is this a weapon recipe???

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List of possible material combination for the 'Dated' Thunderstorm Axe first...

Old Recipe for Thunderstorm Axe (Bill of materials):

Silver Axe Butt
Silver Plate
-Silver Ingot
*Silver Nugget x5
**Silver Ore x4 OR Silver Sand x5

Maple Axe Haft
Linseed Oil
-Flax x4
Maple Lumber
-Maple Log

Storm Axe Head
Iron Ingot x2
-Iron Nugget x10
*Iron Ore x4 OR Limonite x5 OR Iron Sand x6
Iron Nugget x2
-Iron Ore x4 OR Limonite x5 OR Iron Sand x6

Scale Glue
Muddy Water x1
Dormouse Pelt OR Marmot Pelt
Drake Scales OR Biast Scales

Brimstone
Pyrite x4

Undyed Canvas
Cotton Yarn x4
-Cotton Boll x2

Silver Ingot
Silver Nugget x5 OR Silver Sand x5

New Recipe for Thunderstorm Axe (Bill of Materials):

Steel Ingot
Bomb Ash
Iron Ore x2

Walnut Lumber
Walnut Log

Silver Ingot
Silver Ore x3


A 'realistic' system is not an effective system. Recipes for finished items across all crafts are entirely too convoluted. Sure grinding the crafting minigame is mind numbingly boring and that will not change. But gathering the items needed for equipment synthesis should not be a painstaking and frustrating process.