47 ifrit kills, 7 garuda kills... NO SPEAR DROPPED AT ALL

I got Ifrit bow 3rd attempt. However, I've never even gotten to lay eyes on the Garuda bow...lol

Got Ifrits cudgel on my 2nd run :P

On average, it should take players about 20 runs to get their primal weapon. However, there are unfair exceptions like the OP.

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Originally Posted by Memoe

Well over 50 Ifrit kills in 1.0 and about the same for Garuda before I got the weapon I wanted. And I'm not even mad. The feeling when you get the drop makes up for the time. I hope they never implement another token system. Grinding for DL and AF2 gear is already horrible. Now we should be grinding tomes for our weapons too...?

No, no, no no no.

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Totally right, we want some players to spend 1 hour to get their gear and other players to spend 100 hours to get that same gear...

No joke, buddy did 60 runs of Ifrit for weapon. I got mine on my 3rd attempt. Others spent dozens of times in there.

The worst thing though. The VAST majority of the time, it drops something no one is in there for. Jesus I'm never going to level a lancer but could have 15 of them by now.

Seriously. There is one solution that doesn't resolve in everyone getting something but making it better. Disallow drops of jobs that are not present.

i also have never seen the spear drop in ifrit or garuda after multiple runs

My droplist shows that the drops are almost equal distributed for me, all around 3-4 drops atm for each weapon since i log the drops, but rng is a bitch and you never know what you get. 27 Kills since i started counting, 4 swords and everytime another PLD in group who had won the roll.

Yesterday i had an fresh paladin in my DF group without any exp and with AF/Greens with 2 or 3 Pieces DL which never had done garuda hm before, we killed her first try and guess who won the sword which dropped ?

And this is why people rush relics while being under geared, they dislike the RNG screwing them constantly heh. Up to 50 runs, and I am taking a break from attempting to expand my collect of axes. The game is just... silly sometimes.

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Originally Posted by godwin

Needs to be returned to the v1 drop system. Where every pops a chest and takes their chances for weapons and maybe totems (1-3) at least then ppl won't need to fight for drop and u can possibly just get more to me stones for totems.

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Oh, you mean the 1.x drop system where you got nothing but dark matter time and time again? Where I ran Ifrit about 300 times and got 2 tokens, 1 Paladin Sword and more dark matter than I knew what to do with? Sure, let's go back to that instead of guaranteeing a weapon each time. I'd rather run where I see progress happening on drops even if they aren't for me than to have to get slapped to the face with absolutely worthless nothing. No thank you.

I have pld brd blm50
passed(because i have moogle from V1) ifrit bow on 1st run
got blm on 2nd run (same day)
got sword last week while helping new50s.
I love ifrit rng more than v1 where i only got 5 totem on way more run than i did in V2

Why are there players that enjoy the skinner box mindgame of the rng? You honestly prefer to spend 100 hours trying to get 1 item? The op is right to voice his frustration because we all have lives and time is money. Any improvement to the drops would be welcome

I got Ifrit's harpoon on my 2nd try.

That sorta makes up for my attempt at trying to get the wyvern spear in Stone Vigil. I seriously lost count on how many times I ran that dungeon, it got to the point where I was too high of a level to make use of it (I hit lvl 48 before I gave up).

Only once during the times I ran Stone Vigil, did it actually drop a weapon for someone in the party to use. The other 99% of the time it gave out weapons and gear to classes no one was playing as.

They really need to fix it so that it will give out weapons or gear to those that are actually in that participating party.

Oh man, finally got my Garuda bow yesterday. So happy although I was cursed by other players in the pug group for rolling "need" on it. So what if I have a relic? There was no prior discussion about who wanted what anyway. The maturity level of most players I come across is astonishingly low.

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Originally Posted by Leash

I got Ifrit's harpoon on my 2nd try.
That sorta makes up for my attempt at trying to get the wyvern spear in Stone Vigil. I seriously lost count on how many times I ran that dungeon, it got to the point where I was too high of a level to make use of it (I hit lvl 48 before I gave up).

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Didn't know wyvern spear was so rare, i got it on my first run, very lucky i guess. I made good use of it though till i replaced it with a champions spear.

105 Ifrit runs, 25 Garuda runs, 0 lance drops. I feel your pains, and woes. Got my Relic and stopped caring.