Body Hair for males.

Yes please! /signed
I need me some fuzzy husbears.

Yes men have hair. Of course, this is a game catering to a ... different audience... we are more likely to get bizarre multicolored hairstyles or more armor that looks like school girl uniforms.

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Originally Posted by Derpyrose

pretty sure there's a weird law in japan that dosnt allow forms of entertainment to show body hair

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It's a cultural thing. It can be seen in anime, such as Sailor Moon, with battle flash scenes. The way it was explained to me is: If you don't see body hair it's not perverted. So as much as I would love to see males with some chest, arm, and leg hair, I don't think it will happen for this reason.

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Originally Posted by Riixie

It's a cultural thing. It can be seen in anime, such as Sailor Moon, with battle flash scenes. The way it was explained to me is: If you don't see body hair it's not perverted. So as much as I would love to see males with some chest, arm, and leg hair, I don't think it will happen for this reason.

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True but as I said in the OP, this game isn't solely for the Japanese. It's ported to many different countries, with their own cultures. Again for those not understanding as well... this would be optional for those wanting this option we're forced to have what is already there, there is no option for those wanting this...

I don't usually like a lot of body hair on characters, but it sure seems like it should be an option for Miqo'te (furry kitties) and male Roegadyn (testosterone laden brute aesthetic).

Add more beard options and you get a like :P

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Originally Posted by DenariusJay

It's hard to make a bad character in this game.

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I dunno, you were capable enough to make one.

I'm signing for body and facial hair too.

we won't get this till the ps3 version is dead and buried.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

we won't get this till the ps3 version is dead and buried.

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Not sure if you're joking or not...

But changing a diffuse texture, adding in new Bump-Mapping + Specular Highlighting maps for this would require no more than a new piece of gear/hairstyle would.

It's simply another layered 3D Mesh ontop of the current mesh (and or new skin textures to avoid a 3D model overlay (such as beards/hair/tattoos))

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

True but as I said in the OP, this game isn't solely for the Japanese. It's ported to many different countries, with their own cultures. Again for those not understanding as well... this would be optional for those wanting this option we're forced to have what is already there, there is no option for those wanting this...

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It would also have to be an option on global in game scale client side. Even if the Japanese themselves don't use the body hair option, their servers are open to all subscribers (except maybe China bc they have their own thing going). An Un-named-nationality player can hairy themselves up and go running around the JP servers and disgust all the players on a level akin to seeing bikini clad babe in Sunday morning Mass. SO it can potentially affect the rating of the game in Japan.

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Originally Posted by Riixie

It would also have to be an option on global in game scale client side. Even if the Japanese themselves don't use the body hair option, their servers are open to all subscribers (except maybe China bc they have their own thing going). An Un-named-nationality player can hairy themselves up and go running around the JP servers and disgust all the players on a level akin to seeing bikini clad babe in Sunday morning Mass. SO it can potentially affect the rating of the game in Japan.

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Wow, really? It would affect the Japanese community that badly? I guess I come from an entirely different culture/country, but I'm shocked.

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Originally Posted by Merylx

Wow, really? It would affect the Japanese community that badly? I guess I come from an entirely different culture/country, but I'm shocked.

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People are exaggerating a bit. It's not like the Japanese are all devoid of body hair and have never seen it before....

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

People are exaggerating a bit. It's not like the Japanese are all devoid of body hair and have never seen it before....

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It's not that.

It's the fact that in the media it's seen as inappropriate to reveal body-hair.

That's about the height of the argument against it, that's probably the reason.



Where-as we transpose our thoughts over to Guild Wars 2 made by Americans;

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1277/40065177.jpg

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It's not that.

It's the fact that in the media it's seen as inappropriate to reveal body-hair.

That's about the height of the argument against it, that's probably the reason.



Where-as we transpose our thoughts over to Guild Wars 2 made by Americans;

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1277/40065177.jpg

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The concern is still a bit overblown. Body hair isn't THAT scandalous to most Japanese people. Some people in this thread make it out as if it were tantamount to flashing naughty bits :P

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

The concern is still a bit overblown. Body hair isn't THAT scandalous to most Japanese people. Some people in this thread make it out as if it were tantamount to flashing naughty bits :P

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Yet again, people aren't reading the most important bit of what I wrote.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It's the fact that in the media it's seen as inappropriate to reveal body-hair.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Not sure if you're joking or not...

But changing a diffuse texture, adding in new Bump-Mapping + Specular Highlighting maps for this would require no more than a new piece of gear/hairstyle would.

It's simply another layered 3D Mesh ontop of the current mesh (and or new skin textures to avoid a 3D model overlay (such as beards/hair/tattoos))

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not joking
the ps3 is at its limits now.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

not joking
the ps3 is at its limits now.

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Not joking.
You clearly don't understand how basic 3D geometry and texture memory allocation works.


Adding in body hair would be no more off an addition than any other simple object or piece of gear.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/335ee6bb4...hg8zo1_500.jpg

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Not joking.
You clearly don't understand how basic 3D geometry and texture memory allocation works.

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You clearly don't understand how the PS3 is on the brink of its available memory usage with what is available in the game now.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

You clearly don't understand how the PS3 is on the brink of its available memory usage with what is available in the game now.

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The amount of resources it would take for a hair addition.. if that was too much for the ps3 then there is no way PS3 is going to be in on the next expansion let alone next patch.

Farewell ps3, so long and thanks for all the fish. XD

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

You clearly don't understand how the PS3 is on the brink of its available memory usage with what is available in the game now.

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You didn't read a word I said, lol.

I can go into the finite technicalities if you REALLY WANT.


This addition would be absolutely no impact or difference on any of the hardware available for FFXIV.

It would either simply replace the current base skin texture with a hair version, OR add on another 3D mesh layer.


In a really simple term of explanation, it's essentially another layer of gear if they use the second option, nothing more, nothing less.

I support this as a potential option. IMMERSION!!!!

As well I'd like to mention body hair is naturally occurring for all mammals. So the people who think its disgusting are idiots and entitled to their opinions however dillusional they may be.

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Wow comparing someone's body, to someone's bodily functions... yeah that seems legit /sarcasm.

Like I've said many times over, this game isn't only in Japan, it's world wide, where there are many different sets of cultures and sub-cultures in those countries. Just saying...

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This game was developed in Japan.
The game is supported by Japanese people in Japan.
The Japanese community is the largest community so far.
The Japanese community, as a result of the last few points, gets a lot more than the rest of us.

So let's just pretend like a Japanese game that's supported by Japanese people in Japan with a large Japanese community now has to cater to the rest of the world in every facet.

On that note, why can't we have Hot Dogs and Burritos as food items?
Oh right...

EDIT: Oh right, it's bad manners to compare one bodily function to another bodily function. My mistake.

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Originally Posted by Mjytresz

This game was developed in Japan.
The game is supported by Japanese people in Japan.
The Japanese community is the largest community so far.
The Japanese community, as a result of the last few points, gets a lot more than the rest of us.

So let's just pretend like a Japanese game that's supported by Japanese people in Japan with a large Japanese community now has to cater to the rest of the world in every facet.

On that note, why can't we have Hot Dogs and Burritos as food items?
Oh right...

EDIT: Oh right, it's bad manners to compare one bodily function to another bodily function. My mistake.

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Why are you here? Why are you against more customization options? This would be an option, it would not be infringed upon anyone or you personally... again why are you here?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

My character is the peak of design just as he is.


Except the hair gap.

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Oh, Gramul. Without doubt you have some of the best comments in this forum.

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

[B][COLOR="hotpink"]Yes I know this is made by a Japanese company and how the Japanese anatomy works... BUT guess what? It's ported to so many different countries around the world! So appeal to other customers too please!

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Japanese people have bodyhair and facial just like anyone who isn't japanese. They aren't some pureblood race of hairless people. The absence of hair is only due to art aesthetic.

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Originally Posted by vanityobscene

Japanese people have bodyhair and facial just like anyone who isn't japanese. They aren't some pureblood race of hairless people. The absence of hair is only due to art aesthetic.

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I never personally used the terms "they have no body hair." I know they do, obviously every person in the world no matter where they are from will have some different variations of their body structure, and no one form is better than the other. Mostly my statement is for those who try to say "It's a Japanese game, and they don't have body hair, and frown upon it in media." Maybe not worded the best way possible.

The souls series is made by a Japanese dev. Though I'm not sure just how popular it there, but they feature body hair.

Have we gotten a dev response yet on this matter? That's usually a good indicator of whether on not they may implement it in the future like the invisible glamour accessories, fantasia, etc that we've been requesting.

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Originally Posted by myahele

The souls series is made by a Japanese dev. Though I'm not sure just how popular it there, but they feature body hair.

Have we gotten a dev response yet on this matter? That's usually a good indicator of whether on not they may implement it in the future like the invisible glamour accessories, fantasia, etc that we've been requesting.

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Unfortunately there is no Dev or Mod response yet to this matter. That's why I made the thread to see if it would get a response, if they say it's not manageable, won't be heart broken and I'll move on. But yes, that's the main goal in this thread, is to show there is support and ask the ultimate question, can it be done?

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Originally Posted by Shioban

If there's one thing I've proven in the past, it's when they've said something like;

"Lol no, you're not getting metalic dyes, and we're not fixing it"

To get a complete turn after the communities outrage/feedback about it to;

"Actually, we'll add it now, along with some new dyes!




So, it's always nice to keep the thread going, (even if they say no).

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Thanks Shioban.

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Unfortunately there is no Dev or Mod response yet to this matter. That's why I made the thread to see if it would get a response, if they say it's not manageable, won't be heart broken and I'll move on. But yes, that's the main goal in this thread, is to show there is support and ask the ultimate question, can it be done?

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If there's one thing I've proven in the past, it's when they've said something like;

"Lol no, you're not getting metalic dyes, and we're not fixing it"

To get a complete turn after the communities outrage/feedback about it to;

"Actually, we'll add it now, along with some new dyes!




So, it's always nice to keep the thread going, (even if they say no).

Support! All of my support! Body hair YES! Naked mole rat NO!

Also, the post quoted made me guffaw. Peals of laughter on a packed public bus. So thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by Mythrella

Well yeah! Just look at your name for example, you should probably be at the doctor instead of forum posting :)

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Even if they were to implement it, hopefully itll look better than this. Another JMMORPG:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly...z51o2_1280.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jamesy

just wanted to add this girl is clearly dumb and misinformed her generalization of a culture or a variety of cultures is hilarious.
His or Her view point would be like saying everyone from the united states is a christian which is simply not the case so just like how our preferences differ so do people from japan differ from one and other.

Mjytresz please do us all a favor and break your pc because it hasn't helped you at all it seems to learn about other cultures races creeds or ethnic groups and you make yourself look foolish with your posts.

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Striking on religion or ethnicity issues are just not cool man. :(

Didn't strike anything you obviously didn't read what I said making your post irrelevant. I made a comparison to the assumption everyone has the same ideals for one ethnicity or geographical region which clearly isn't true.

Ugh why does no one know how to read anymore >.>

You're not even know what you're saying. Let me re-quote the part which is even against TOS itself:

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Originally Posted by Jamesy

His or Her view point would be like saying everyone from the united states is a christian which is simply not the case so just like how our preferences differ so do people from japan differ from one and other.

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

You're not even know what you're saying. Let me re-quote the part which is even against TOS itself:

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In their post key phrase is "Would be like", what they're saying is an agreement to what you're against. They said "don't judge culturally or religiously like that" , you said "don't judge culturally or religiously like that".

:P

The fact you don't understand a comparison is hilarious. You obviously failed English in public school stop trying to derail a thread because your upset I made a comparison showing how a country can hold multiple views and not just one.

I didn't show hatred or bias to any group if you could read you would have noticed I was using an easily identifiable section and showing how not everyone holds those same beliefs or ideas.

Nope. I actually understand what you're trying to say. But directly speaking of religious/ethnicity term and using it as comparison are not something I felt comfortable to read.

Oh my gosh a word oh nooo get over it.

Here's another one that may bother you...

VOLDEMORT!!!