how to make 10mil+ gil a day (and its effect on 2.0?)

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Originally Posted by Tacotaru

Are you making more money with the time you're saving or are you just arguing to desperately try to save face while failing horribly?

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Definitely the second part. Some people can't handle having been wrong, so they scrounge desperately for SOME reason to have been right.

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Originally Posted by CoolhandLou

I find it funny that you care so much. Time = Money

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Yes. I'm willing to put in more time, so I make more money than you. ;3

2 questions how many crystals do you get per run? and whats the most you can obtain in one run?

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Originally Posted by Akira

2 questions how many crystals do you get per run? and whats the most you can obtain in one run?

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Depends on your luck, I've made anywhere from 0 - 19 from one rock.

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Originally Posted by Akira

2 questions how many crystals do you get per run? and whats the most you can obtain in one run?

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Most I've ever received off one stone is 24; I got two 7s and two 5s. In a full cycle (18:00 and 0:00 combined) I've got in the 50s.

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Originally Posted by Biggs

Still though, the current servers economies were already a joke. Level 20 items selling for 50k each? Yeah, that encourges new players to want to go do stuff. The only chance new players in 2.0 will have, even well before this atomos thing, was to start on one of the brand new servers they are creating for ps3 players. The box should come with a damn warning about the existing servers economy heh.

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No, just no. New players will be levelling up their crafts too and creating a large supply of level 20 items. A large supply of level 20 items currently does not exist because the number of low level players is small and it's not worth people like me making them.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

But this is not from Atomos. This is from people believing the cap is going to lower, and those with 100mil are more are mass-buying so as not to 'lose gil'. Gil that was not in circulation because it was being hoarded, is suddenly being circulated.

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Do you really believe people with over 100mil are that stupid? Those items could be worthless in V2. In the unlikely event that we're going to lose gil due to a lower cap that gil will be moved to other characters well in advance.

Remember is the end of the world, this is the chaos SE expects, people starving without clothes and friends before the new era.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

No, just no. New players will be levelling up their crafts too and creating a large supply of level 20 items. A large supply of level 20 items currently does not exist because the number of low level players is small and it's not worth people like me making them.



Do you really believe people with over 100mil are that stupid? Those items could be worthless in V2. In the unlikely event that we're going to lose gil due to a lower cap that gil will be moved to other characters well in advance.

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Uh, yes I do. Being rich with gil or any other currency doesn't equate intelligence. I saw someone I was in an Atomos pt with saying they were going to mass-buy materia in preparation for the cap.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

No, just no. New players will be levelling up their crafts too and creating a large supply of level 20 items. A large supply of level 20 items currently does not exist because the number of low level players is small and it's not worth people like me making them.



Do you really believe people with over 100mil are that stupid? Those items could be worthless in V2. In the unlikely event that we're going to lose gil due to a lower cap that gil will be moved to other characters well in advance.

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Tell that to the people i see shout for help with low level weapons now man. If the amount of people that have millions of gil increases, the production of low level gear, even when the ps3 drops, will go down. It makes me sad too, and don't get me wrong I try to help now and will continue to do so then, but the fact is, if your rich why make low level items that don't make a profit when you could be reducing your production time by just crafting a few high level items for sale?

Fortunatly for both of us, we will find out in a few months i guess.

Hahaha! Foolish noobies! I make ONE BILLION gil a day with zero effort, 10 million gil is nothing!

On a serious note I feel like if you are willing to subject yourself to the shitty laggy vendoring process for 16 hours a day you probably deserve a little gil

There's going to be new servers when 2.0 launches. If you are that worried about the economy because of current activities, start fresh on a new server.

What doesn't make any sense to me, is it seems like the people who started without gil are the ones complaining about this...

What could there possibly be to complain about? It's a completely fair playing field.

Just means they need to make gil sinks for the new players, like buying land (just put some safeguards to stop them from reselling or buying more than one) and all the stuff for building. I'm sure this alone will be expensive and something for new players to work towards and will be a privilege for older players to be able to afford off the hop. if they pay it to the NPC then the money effectively disappears. just a thought, if not then it just might be a huge issue for the economy and new players.

Yeah its not like there is something stopping everyone from doing same thing. I was making my gil off making sarnga and other class only gear it was slow going depending on the item. I've been doing atomos for seals so I could get that damn beastman key item and gc weapons since they are stronger than all but the relics. Honestly had no clue about this money maker.

Tempting. Very tempting.

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Originally Posted by Ricky

Hahaha! Foolish noobies! I make ONE BILLION gil a day with zero effort, 10 million gil is nothing!

On a serious note I feel like if you are willing to subject yourself to the shitty laggy vendoring process for 16 hours a day you probably deserve a little gil

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True indeed. Its not as though its a QUICK way to make money.

Also look at it this way... If we get MORE gil so gil is worth less...isn't that exactly the same as taking gil away so gil is worth more? When SE says they're reducing the gil volume by 90%, you shrug and say its no big deal because its just a shift in denomination. Well its the same for when gil inflates. This isn't the real world, this is a bubble. So inflation can never really ruin anything, because there's no alternate currency to base it on.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

Also look at it this way... If we get MORE gil so gil is worth less...isn't that exactly the same as taking gil away so gil is worth more? When SE says they're reducing the gil volume by 90%, you shrug and say its no big deal because its just a shift in denomination. Well its the same for when gil inflates. This isn't the real world, this is a bubble. So inflation can never really ruin anything, because there's no alternate currency to base it on.

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True if everyones gil inflated at the sametime at the same rate. However not everyone is doing atomos, or was able to load up on thousands of leve quests back when they had awesome gil rewards.

Or has an army of bots to follow you around like the RMT's do at cedarwood :P


Like in real life the problem would be the rich are getting richer then everyone else (the rate is disproportional). So at some point (or now you could argue) we have a problem. 1% has 90% issue.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

There's going to be new servers when 2.0 launches. If you are that worried about the economy because of current activities, start fresh on a new server.

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That's what I'm planning on doing. I wonder if they'll encourage new players to choose the new servers?

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Originally Posted by Shougun

True if everyones gil inflated at the sametime at the same rate. However not everyone is doing atomos, or was able to load up on thousands of leve quests back when they had awesome gil rewards.

Or has an army of bots to follow you around like the RMT's do at cedarwood :P


Like in real life the problem would be the rich are getting richer then everyone else (the rate is disproportional). So at some point (or now you could argue) we have a problem. 1% has 90% issue.

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Well everyone can still charge more for what they're selling. They can keep in mind that a lot of players have a lot more gil now, and therefore charge more.

How much is the Gil to American Dollar exchange rate these days?

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Originally Posted by Akira

2 questions how many crystals do you get per run? and whats the most you can obtain in one run?

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The most you can obtain at one camp is 35. Although you can usually only check the rock 3 or 4 times so that would be 21, or 28 respectively. But you can also get 0. It's all VERY random.

I don't think most people are content with doing atomos 24/7. The majority of players going for relics are also interested in aquiring Darklight gear and other random things that won't be around much longer instead of capping gil. Besides, just because people can make the gil to buy a double melded weapon does not mean they will get the completed relic, lol...

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Originally Posted by Riv

I don't think most people are content with doing atomos 24/7. The majority of players going for relics are also interested in aquiring Darklight gear and other random things that won't be around much longer instead of capping gil. Besides, just because people can make the gil to buy a double melded weapon does not mean they will get the completed relic, lol...

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Indeed. I've been spending mine on armor. I'm going to reduce the impact of the gil reduction to my own gil supply by holding onto as little gil as possible and embrace the new gil values in 2.0 with open arms. Afterall, 1/10 of 0 is 0. :P

just an example, I started playing at 12 today. Its 5:45 now, i just hit 200 crystals. And i've missed a few sessions and havent ported to second camp every time.

So how did they nerf the atomos event? He doesn't drop clusters now? I know they removed the NPC previously but nothing seemed to change

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Originally Posted by Ricky

So how did they nerf the atomos event? He doesn't drop clusters now? I know they removed the NPC previously but nothing seemed to change

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because of guarenteed 4 clusters you used to make double what you make now.

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That is somewhat of a serious problem, especially in a game that may implement gear scores.

If people will only invite those with high gear scores, and old players have cap gil each stored up, they will increase the prices for high-demand gear well above anything new players can reach. This means new players won't get invited to end game ls's and the elite raids. And it means many new players will probably quit. Because lets face it, who wants to spend a month repetitively farming things to even have a chance of catching up to those who are currently making 10mil a day (1/10th of the new gil cap)

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well SE said there aiming for a balenced game, when you bring gearscores in then the game turns to crap everyone go for the same exact same pieces of gear. then ill be un-subbing.

Tsk, buying Relic Weapons is for pussies!
Wait...

I meant... yeah, for weak people. Do it yourself and be a real player with real accomplishments!
...did I just offend Miqo'tes?

Love how the people thats complaining about the seal exchange for gil when they might be the main ones doing it.... dont ruin it for everyone when you got your hand in it too.... Im just sayin

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Originally Posted by Dilu_Bakari

Love how the people thats complaining about the seal exchange for gil when they might be the main ones doing it.... dont ruin it for everyone when you got your hand in it too.... Im just sayin

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LOL it was the same way when they added in EXP chains and there was a bug that ignored player level differences so you could have a level 50 in the party AOE grinding to level the lowbie group up...

"Fix this now, SE!!! So broken!!!" *proceeds to exploit*

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Originally Posted by Nikita

LOL it was the same way when they added in EXP chains and there was a bug that ignored player level differences so you could have a level 50 in the party AOE grinding to level the lowbie group up...

"Fix this now, SE!!! So broken!!!" *proceeds to exploit*

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Right but they want to complain about the small stuff

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

The most you can obtain at one camp is 35. Although you can usually only check the rock 3 or 4 times so that would be 21, or 28 respectively. But you can also get 0. It's all VERY random.

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You can't actually get multiple rewards by examining the same Voidstone multiple times, can you?

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Originally Posted by Matsume

You can't actually get multiple rewards by examining the same Voidstone multiple times, can you?

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You can continuously examine the voidstone as long as it is present and you will receive a reward each time... but what you get is random and therefore luck-based.

However, now you only get the over-aspected cluster and achievement the very first time you are there to beat Atomos. Originally you got one each time, but that got adjusted.

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Originally Posted by Mikita

You can continuously examine the voidstone as long as it is present and you will receive a reward each time... but what you get is random and therefore luck-based.

However, now you only get the over-aspected cluster and achievement the very first time you are there to beat Atomos. Originally you got one each time, but that got adjusted.

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Thanks for clarifying that, I'll give it a go.

WE ARE THE 99%! lol T_T

Governor Azurymber says he's for the people, but is he really..?

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A-1: Original Post

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

if you spend an entire day farming atmos and selling dawn drops you can easily pull in over 10mil per day. By day i mean 16ish hours.
Think about that. 3 days of farming and you can get nearly any relic weapon.

Now think about that effect on 2.0.

Here we have a game that has massive inflation with tons of people who have 1000million gil.

So what does SE do? lets people make MORE gil.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

just reducing cap from what i've read. Not people's gil.
edit: even if they reduced gil, people are currently inflating prices now, and buying up items. Which means the entire economy will be a mess regardless.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

50k seals = 200 crystals = 4.2ish mil

i made over 400 crystals today (workin towards 500k acheivement) missing multiple pops, not always teleporting to second camp, etc. And not playing all day. So if i wasnt getting gear, I could have made 8.5 mil today (not including npc time) for maybe 10 hours of distracted runs.

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Exhibit B:
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Originally Posted by Sylkis

You can help by not making another thread and not participating in the event. See you again next year!

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Originally Posted by Biggs

This seems like one of those news reports where they spend 20 mins talking on national news about how shitty security is at nuclear plants or something. SO maybe like 5 people with ill intentions knew about this before the news report but after it like 1000's knew, so you essentially took something that was kind of bad and made it a million times worse instead of better.

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Originally Posted by Akira

2 questions how many crystals do you get per run? and whats the most you can obtain in one run?

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Originally Posted by JusticeReborn

I keep hearing about this Dawn Drops gil-making method, but don't understand it. Is there an item you can buy from your GC by this name, and then NPC? If so, what Rank is it from your GC seals NPC?

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Originally Posted by Dilu_Bakari

Love how the people thats complaining about the seal exchange for gil when they might be the main ones doing it.... dont ruin it for everyone when you got your hand in it too.... Im just sayin

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I'm Mujen... and I approve this message!

Facts: As of the time of my posting... 11,228 Views/155 replies/12 likes on original post.

#1 You clearly got told/eavesdropped about this method cuz clearly too stupid to have come up w/ it on your own.
#2 You pretty much made things worse, ontop of the fact you gloated about your own achievements/potential achievements.
#3 What were you trying to accomplish w/ this thread?
#4 For the amt of views this thread has gotten least amt of responses, because ppl are reading it & saying "thanks for the info, dumbass.. I'll go try it!"

Conclusion: Good job there uncle tom, nice way to snitch, glad I don't have to play w/ ur ass.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

Facts: As of the time of my posting... 11,228 Views/155 replies/12 likes on original post.

#1 You clearly got told/eavesdropped about this method cuz clearly too stupid to have come up w/ it on your own.
#2 You pretty much made things worse, ontop of the fact you gloated about your own achievements/potential achievements.
#3 What were you trying to accomplish w/ this thread?
#4 For the amt of views this thread has gotten least amt of responses, because ppl are reading it & saying "thanks for the info, dumbass.. I'll go try it!"

Conclusion: Good job there uncle tom, nice way to snitch, glad I don't have to play w/ ur ass.

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You're one of those people that got mad when I released guides at the start of the game giving away all the leveling locations aren't you...

Or one of the people who used the cure exploit and cried when ppl told mods about it.

First: I've made maybe 100k or less off of dawn drops (just to test out npc times after ppl here said it takes forever). I spend all my seals on unique/ex gear, even if it sucks, just so i can have it for looks.

Second: I don't think its fair that a few people knew about this and many didn't. While I personally have no desire to bleed gil out of the system I fully support everyone else doing it if SE allows it. And I can't stand when a few elitists take advantage of what is essentially an exploit and don't tell anyone about it.

Third: I was hoping that if there was a forum topic on it mods would kinda realize how messed up the system is and SE would gimp dawn drop npc rates... my bad for forgetting this is SE

If you don't like that I gave away your little secret go whine to mommy. But people like you are the reason why I made this thread.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

Now think about that effect on 2.0.

Here we have a game that has massive inflation with tons of people who have 1000million gil.

So what does SE do? lets people make MORE gil.

So new players will enter a game where most people have capped gil or much more than capped gil.

Does that sound fun to you?

Either that means reaching cap will be insanely easy or new players will be at a huge disadvantage for -years-.

That is somewhat of a serious problem, especially in a game that may implement gear scores.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

You're one of those people that got mad when I released guides at the start of the game giving away all the leveling locations aren't you...

Or one of the people who used the cure exploit and cried when ppl told mods about it.

First: I've made maybe 100k or less off of dawn drops (just to test out npc times after ppl here said it takes forever). I spend all my seals on unique/ex gear, even if it sucks, just so i can have it for looks.

Second: I don't think its fair that a few people knew about this and many didn't. While I personally have no desire to bleed gil out of the system I fully support everyone else doing it if SE allows it. And I can't stand when a few elitists take advantage of what is essentially an exploit and don't tell anyone about it.

Third: I was hoping that if there was a forum topic on it mods would kinda realize how messed up the system is and SE would gimp dawn drop npc rates... my bad for forgetting this is SE

If you don't like that I gave away your little secret go whine to mommy. But people like you are the reason why I made this thread.

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#1 You're an idiot

#2 People who know how to make gil alrdy have their own way and you can net gain more than the time/gil spent for doing this.

#3 You made things worse on the same issue you mentioned. Do you think? Did it ever occur to contact a GM? Or do you broadcast everything for thousands of people to see?

#4 You're an idiot

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

You're one of those people that got mad when I released guides at the start of the game giving away all the leveling locations aren't you...

Or one of the people who used the cure exploit and cried when ppl told mods about it.

First: I've made maybe 100k or less off of dawn drops (just to test out npc times after ppl here said it takes forever). I spend all my seals on unique/ex gear, even if it sucks, just so i can have it for looks.

Second: I don't think its fair that a few people knew about this and many didn't. While I personally have no desire to bleed gil out of the system I fully support everyone else doing it if SE allows it. And I can't stand when a few elitists take advantage of what is essentially an exploit and don't tell anyone about it.

Third: I was hoping that if there was a forum topic on it mods would kinda realize how messed up the system is and SE would gimp dawn drop npc rates... my bad for forgetting this is SE

If you don't like that I gave away your little secret go whine to mommy. But people like you are the reason why I made this thread.

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First: Cool?

Second: Many people actually knew about the system and were doing before this event even came out. There is no if SE allows it, they DO allow it, hence they did a fix to try and "balance" the event. No it's not an exploit, you are just retarded and want to call it an exploit.

Third: Like I said in second, SE already does know about this, hence the fix they did.

If you don't like that you really have no idea what you are saying go whine to mommy. But people like you are the reason I made this post.