New Mogstore "Supply kit" good will or desperation?

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Originally Posted by PaulusHamsteru

Has WoW ever raised their sub prices?

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Technical no, but they did start charging tax on them recently in my state in America it technically went up by like .90 cents. Less than a dollar. So, not at all, really.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

Technical no, but they did start charging tax on them recently in my state in America it technically went up by like .90 cents. Less than a dollar. So, not at all, really.

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I pay taxes on every purchase I make on Mogstation too.

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Originally Posted by PaulusHamsteru

I pay taxes on every purchase I make on Mogstation too.

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Yeah, we never did before. I can't remember when they made the change, but every digital purchase is taxed. It is what it is, but it is annoying to be taxed on something that isn't tangible, but that's a different argument altogether.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You must be the only one then. Also, preordering costs nothing, so it’s not like you are paying extra.

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dahell no shes not the only one. stop assuming something because you do diffrent stuff

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Originally Posted by AlysanneVrannai

Genuinely fantastic to see Pre-Order items not be an exclusive thing anymore, this unironically is a consumer win right here compared to some of the other things for sale.
Now the bundle is not really appealing to me but it's a nice thing for new players, including some very popular emotes and a fantasia. Good, harmless stuff.
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What?
You're telling me a bunch of people in this thread are drawing the line in the sand right here?
Not at:

• Extra Retainers?
• Level Boosts?
• Early Access to Expansions?

Seriously? You guys are absolutely ridiculous.
I am infinitely gladdened to see Pre-Order bonuses available in any capacity to a wider base. Truly one of the worse practices in my opinion.
A Pre-Order is a bonus in itself; There should be no incentive other than guaranteeing the product being available to you upon its launch.

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actually no i agree with all of this 3 points and still im not very happy with this bundle :D


EDIT: for understanding i mean i hate all of this 3 ponts aswell as the story skip. What i dont like at this bundle is and i repeat it untill every defender gets it. I DONT CARE for the stupid buff. What i care for is that this items always been pre oder stuff for people supporting this game AT THE TIME not 4 years later. If SE wouldve put in another earring in there noone would even be mad...for your understanding this is an item in their database creating no extra work but will be charged for 7$...Plus this is actually an earring i see a lot glammed or even used. Yes it creates the effect for new players of "sad i cant get it" and thats the point. This was a reward for you as someone who bought the product period. If the argument is let new players get it then you have to include everything else in there. I started in SB and guess what i was not getting items from the past aswell. Besides im not sure if SE is such a good guy and want to help some other players here. Menphina is popular and now she have a boss fight ingame sure thing people want this earring. Thats why they chose her earring not the one one with lvl 70 or smth else. Plus creating a new thing would be to much work for 7$

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Originally Posted by PaulusHamsteru

Has WoW ever raised their sub prices?

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hmm i'm sure WoW has a store similar to Mogstation? I might be wrong i've never played it. Yep Battle.net so i'm not sure what your point is?

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

Nope I pre-order for the Items.

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ok so instead of paying 40usd at the time to get early access and limited items you rather pay the same amount later and not get anything ?

In the mind if wicked, all good will will be turn into evil deed
Fantasia is $10 USD a bottle but this set also gives you extra stuffs for the same value
What do you think?

I always pre-order and get the CEs and I think it's great they're making those items available later on for new players. I got my use out of the earring and now new people can, too.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I always pre-order and get the CEs and I think it's great they're making those items available later on for new players. I got my use out of the earring and now new people can, too.

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again why not making an extra item if its just for using the buff...
too much work i guess

Cope as much as you want, pre-order bonus items aren't special beyond what you personally make of them.

The only exception are the Garlond Goggles as 1.0 legacy rewards.

I would love if they brought back earlier pre-order earrigns that I wasn't around for so I can complete my collection. I also would love if others got another way to get the ones that I do have. The aetheryte earring is my favourite earring in the game and I want others to be able to enjoy it too. I feel that small pang of greed to find out something exclusive I had is no longer exclusive, but I see that as more of a personal failing. Giving people another shot at things they missed should probably be encouraged. It's different if it's something you earn in game for putting in the work, but what's so special about having money and being around at the right time to spend it?

What should be encouraged more is using the money that practice generates to actually make FFXIV better instead of funnelling it off to be squandered elsewhere while this game has to cut corners and be less than it should be.

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Originally Posted by Dante131

again why not making an extra item if its just for using the buff...
too much work i guess

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Why all that extra work? I remember how many people used to ask about my broom mount because it wasn't on the Mogstation for ages after the 2015 Halloween event. I was really happy for everyone when they finally released it because it's a great mount. It would have been silly if they went to all the trouble of creating a new version when it had been years since it was available in game at that point.

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Originally Posted by Dante131

actually no i agree with all of this 3 points and still im not very happy with this bundle :D


EDIT: for understanding i mean i hate all of this 3 ponts aswell as the story skip. What i dont like at this bundle is and i repeat it untill every defender gets it. I DONT CARE for the stupid buff. What i care for is that this items always been pre oder stuff for people supporting this game AT THE TIME not 4 years later. If SE wouldve put in another earring in there noone would even be mad...for your understanding this is an item in their database creating no extra work but will be charged for 7$...Plus this is actually an earring i see a lot glammed or even used. Yes it creates the effect for new players of "sad i cant get it" and thats the point. This was a reward for you as someone who bought the product period. If the argument is let new players get it then you have to include everything else in there. I started in SB and guess what i was not getting items from the past aswell. Besides im not sure if SE is such a good guy and want to help some other players here. Menphina is popular and now she have a boss fight ingame sure thing people want this earring. Thats why they chose her earring not the one one with lvl 70 or smth else. Plus creating a new thing would be to much work for 7$

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Now, I'll openly say I hate anything being exclusive. I am of the personal belief that all content in a product be available to consumers of that product. If one purchases the product, then the content therein should be available, not to some arbitrary subset of consumers.

That said, the pre-order bonuses for all of the expansions, far as I understand, aren't exclusive content (save the early access). The items associated with it are available after the pre-order period as account upgrades on the mogstation. If you didn't pre-order the ARR version of the game because you either weren't old enough to play it back in 2013 or was laughing at the massive failure that 1.x was, you can still get the Coeurl Mount associated with that pre-order by spending some extra cash on "upgrading" your account to have it. It's there. It's available. It's not forever locked away to only those who pre-ordered the game back then. It costs money but that isn't exclusive.

Permanent exclusivity is a blight to begin with. 'I spent money years ago' is not an accomplishment worth protecting.

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

Cope as much as you want, pre-order bonus items aren't special beyond what you personally make of them.

The only exception are the Garlond Goggles as 1.0 legacy rewards.

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Personally think 1.0 doesn't need many exclusive items as the 1.0 players already have an exclusive reduced subscription cost...

I am quite biased however, as I would not mind having the other fomo emotes/items tied to statues/books etc (which I have and are expensive) being made available for cheap on the mog station.

(These are my opinions)

I cannot believe anyone can honestly complain about this good of a deal being available.

Ignoring whatever phrasing was used around the pre-order bonuses, I would rather have the earrings/minions/etc made available in a more orderly manner than just dropping a random semi-recent one in and in part.

Moogle cap, cait sith doll, baron hat, baron earrings, courier chocobo, a la mhigan earring, wind up red mage, aetheryte earrings, baby gremlin, wind-up palom are still in limbo assuming they add another chronological one in 8.0.

I would of course prefer them added as jonathas thingies for achievement points than cash shop whatsits but I have doubts that the se accounting dept would agree.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Why all that extra work? I remember how many people used to ask about my broom mount because it wasn't on the Mogstation for ages after the 2015 Halloween event. I was really happy for everyone when they finally released it because it's a great mount. It would have been silly if they went to all the trouble of creating a new version when it had been years since it was available in game at that point.

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yeah why should a big company work for getting money if they can just simple give a way items they made years ago as a gift for supporters :D

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Originally Posted by Rin_Sato

Personally think 1.0 doesn't need many exclusive items as the 1.0 players already have an exclusive reduced subscription cost...

I am quite biased however, as I would not mind having the other fomo emotes/items tied to statues/books etc (which I have and are expensive) being made available for cheap on the mog station.

(These are my opinions)

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Not all do, only those who subscribed for 3 months during a specific period have reduced subs.

I hope they make the Baron earrings & headband accessible in the future

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I got this exclusive thanks and I am glad that it's still available for others afterwards tbh.

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Yeah, that level 80 or less earring is pretty useless for my main character, considering the new jobs start there.

But I'm happy other returning players can take advantage of it, if they didn't pre-order an expansion 3 years ago.

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Originally Posted by fulminating

I would of course prefer them added as jonathas thingies for achievement points than cash shop whatsits but I have doubts that the se accounting dept would agree.

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I think we can safely add the achievement vendor to the "abandoned features"-list considering it hasn't been updated in about 3 years.

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Originally Posted by Dante131

yeah why should a big company work for getting money if they can just simple give a way items they made years ago as a gift for supporters :D

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This wasn't a gift. It's a purchase. You bought the earring, brother.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Sato

Personally think 1.0 doesn't need many exclusive items as the 1.0 players already have an exclusive reduced subscription cost...

I am quite biased however, as I would not mind having the other fomo emotes/items tied to statues/books etc (which I have and are expensive) being made available for cheap on the mog station.

(These are my opinions)

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To be honest, yeah, I agree! There is a few exclusive dated items (especially the old glasses) that I would love to get, and it's a bit odd that you cannot get them any other way than that.

Aside from this, I actually managed to get a 1.0 sealed copy a few months ago with the garlond goggles code still working. I wouldn't really mind having them in the shop, but i don't know if anyone will ever purchase them because these look *oooold*.

It's literally fine. It gives less benefits than just flat out buying a boost. XIV players are more doomer than WoW ones.

The real problem is highlighted in the second post of this thread- The money is almost guaranteed to be wasted on some other side game instead of the only thing making Square enix any sort of revenue.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

I think we can safely add the achievement vendor to the "abandoned features"-list considering it hasn't been updated in about 3 years.

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I don’t remember when it was added or if I’m misremembering, but he’s the guy who hands out the grandmaster caster and world class troller plate items (presumably also the majong one)

I think it's a good thing tbh, and I own the earring, as well as the ones for Shadowbringers and Stormblood. If anything, I'd like to see the ARR and Heavensward preorder items added to the store as well.

I've never been a big believer in exclusivity via FOMO, it's why I'll also advocate for the statue emotes either being added to the cash shop, or the figures themselves being made available on a permanent basis on the store. The same goes for other items such as the Carbuncle plushes and the various Blu-Ray's.

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Originally Posted by fulminating

I don’t remember when it was added or if I’m misremembering, but he’s the guy who hands out the grandmaster caster and world class troller plate items (presumably also the majong one)

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Jonathas is about as old as achiements themselves so he's at least existed since 2.0, probably since 1.0 even. Originally you had to visit him to claim any achiement rewards since you couldn't just grab them from the menu itself.
At some point they added the achiement currency, likely when they removed the old veteran reward system and shifted those items into his inventory for you to buy with said currency, slowly adding new items to it.

But the only updates he has gotten to his inventory since 5.0 are adventurer plate kits tied to ocean fishing, mahjong and the rare fish achievement, which most people can't even see.
That's also where my assumption came from that he hasn't been updated in 3 years since I didn't even know he had those plate designs.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

But the only updates he has gotten to his inventory since 5.0 are adventurer plate kits tied to ocean fishing, mahjong and the rare fish achievement, which most people can't even see.
That's also where my assumption came from that he hasn't been updated in 3 years since I didn't even know he had those plate designs.

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They moved a lot of the achievement rewards directly to the achievement menu when they redesigned that awhile back, so I didn’t realize they were still adding to his inventory either! I’ll have to see whether I got that ocean fishing achievement or not…