Most Hated XIV Character

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Originally Posted by Mosha

he hasn't been mentioned

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It's more of a testament to just how forgettable he is as a character.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

How he went from a guy caught in a bad situation where he had to lead even when he felt he wasn't good enough to lead to a cardboard cutout of a character that does nothing but fawn after the WoL. The sad thing is that you can tell when the writer has to write him as the exarch when he has to do something of significance only for him to revert back to the WoL's cheerleader. It's actually kind of a bummer they write him like that, lol. Personally, I would not mind him fawning over the WoL if he cuts it back to a third of how he acts in EW so he's more endearing and less annoying.

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If you could understand the life that G'raha had led up until the passing of Elidibus- when things had finally calmed down- then you might be able to show only a little empathy for the man. He's been through a lot, has seen a lot, had suffered quite astutely, and bore himself through it using the WoL as a role model/aspiration. While Endwalker G'raha can easily be seen as cutesy, or even fan-service in behavior, it still fits the man's character, as he no longer bears a terrible burden he had once carried for the better part of his life and only wishes to live out his dreams of becoming an adventurer standing beside a figure he could only read about in essence in fiction. Well, his personal yearning, anyway. I'm sure he's still one of the first that would jump in to save the world if necessary.

I despised G'raha before he left for the Crystal Tower, and was moderately impressed with his candor come the Crystal Exarch. Only after he showed signs of having his own personality inside of that persona did I start caring some about him; and while the ear animations and hand-wringing are somewhat too plenty in cutscenes post-Elidibus's fall, I rather enjoy that he's of the mind or heart to express himself after spending a lifetime bottled up and locked up.

As for the reversion of personalities back and forth to suit the writing: I both see it and understand how "stocky" or "jarring" it can get. I'll admit that I felt the plot too convenient (and rolled my eyes) when G'raha used Levitate or whatever after the Tower of Zot. G'raha isn't my favorite XIV character, but, to me, he's nowhere near one of the unbearables.

Edit: sorry, I didn't mean to sound as if I were judging you or saying you felt he was subpar/etc. I realize the first part of my response sort of insinuates so. Apologies.

To be fair to G'raha, if I spent about a century slowly turning into a stone only to one day return to my 21(?) year old self, I'd be ecstatic too. Plus, I like that little existential crisis of his about being unsure/scared whether he's the Exarch possessing his younger body, or the younger self who absorbed the Exarch's memories.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

To be fair to G'raha, if I spent about a century slowly turning into a stone only to one day return to my 21(?) year old self, I'd be ecstatic too. Plus, I like that little existential crisis of his about being unsure/scared whether he's the Exarch possessing his younger body, or the younger self who absorbed the Exarch's memories.

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Oh my god I forgot about all of that. ._ .

Lyse and the twins should've died in endwalker

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Originally Posted by Mosha

he hasn't been mentioned

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Yeah I hate him too but I love to hate him which makes him slightly better than Gridania Lady in which she can just disappear.

So far? Kan-e-senna.

I'm still trying to keep an open mind regarding the writing overall and character writing specifically but I feel gross just being stuck on the same star as this useless creature.

y'shtola, thancred and g'raha

sick of them hogging all the screentime. that's all.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

Meteion. Because we deserved much better than we got from Endwalker.

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Meteion was an utter tragedy of a villain. Her and the ridiculous power source, dynamis, that SE shoehorned in were terribly anticlimactic.

Yoshi P is the most hated character right now it seems looking around the forums.

K'lyhia and Lyse give me severe allergies. I can not stand either one of them.

For me it’s Hildibrand and Minfilia. I never enjoyed the Hildibrand series, his shenanigans are annoying, he’s not funny and I couldn’t be happier to skip his cutscenes with the new relic quest line. As for Minfilia I am glad they finally got her, 4 expansions (Arr-Shb) worth and she was still useless and a waste of a character.

Graha Tia & Y’shtola,

I’ve no animosity to cats irl & some “mature/down to eartg” Mi’Qotes,

Graha Tia: Somehow this guy makes me cringe af & just has that vibe personality about him that’s so prevalent in most Japanese animes uwus/furries whatever. Can’t stand every inch of him, please….please don’t let him carry on past 7.0!! Ugh

Y’shtola: Pressume to be every male’s hand hand squeeze? This character barely had any development & just cannot find any reason to like her & her know-it-all aloof/stoic attitude.

Majority of uwus/cat obsessed people, yall make me cringe as much.

Well I haven't met all of these people yet (though my sister Medley has).

Presently I am travelling with this lady called Lyse who goes into combat wearing knickers and big boots and she won't stop talking.

I can never take a nap in peace and she won't let me bring my plushies on dungeon runs.

So I don't like her. Don't like Auntie Lyse. Much rather go out on the town with Uncle Thanc and Uncle Orange. They let me try beer sometimes.

Maybe I could arrange a date between her and that Aymeric chap who is also very annoying and then they would both leave me alone.

Cid

It ruins my day everytime he shows up again and says: "I am in this questline too for reasons".

He is so boring and unlikable. Too bad his name is Cid so we can't just get rid of him, can we?

Emmanellain de Fortemps

Id like nothing better than to kick his rear off the edge of a cliff or feed him to something with a big appetite and sharp teeth.

The generic over sexualised, probably modded on your screen female character OC. Y'know, those people on Twitter etc sharing their totally original OC that nobody ever thought of before. No, I will not address miqo'te (or other race) by "their" real name.

All of the main cast.

I much prefer the secondary characters more. Too bad they either die or get off the story when they're not needed anymore. Too bad because they were some of my favorites, like Moenbryda, or the Chai Couple, or Gosetsu (loved the guy)

As for the villain...I couldn't care less frankly. But I don't hate them at least so that's a plus.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Zenos, because if you had to pinpoint where they story starts falling off you can pretty easily point to his character as the turning point.

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I agreed before endwalker
i think they salvaged his character pretty well

As for me, hate is a strong word but i'd say y'shtola, as much as i love her personality/design the way the writers use her is annoying. They keep baiting her death and it got old a while ago

Warrior of Light

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

I agreed before endwalker
i think they salvaged his character pretty well

As for me, hate is a strong word but i'd say y'shtola, as much as i love her personality/design the way the writers use her is annoying. They keep baiting her death and it got old a while ago

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I agree. EW did a lot for Zenos's character.

Besides that, I think a lot of people just hated him because he was part of a bunch of unwinnable fights in SB. The whole "strong character wants to fight strong opponents" is also a bit of an overused troupe, although I don't think it's that bad here.

Y'shtola and G'raha at this point both feel like fanservice characters. The death baiting doesn't feel too bad for Y'shtola personally because it's not just her death that's been baited at this point.

Most of them have overstayed their welcome in various ways, but I think the most egregious ones were those who wore masks at first, but then took those masks off when they joined us. Estinien and Graha are the two biggest offenders in my mind, since the people they were initially were far more interesting to me than the goofy borderline comic-relief characters they are now. Gaius is an exception; I really like where they went with him because he wasn't around enough to be turned into a joke.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Y'shtola and G'raha at this point both feel like fanservice characters. The death baiting doesn't feel too bad for Y'shtola personally because it's not just her death that's been baited at this point.

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I know this is going to be a hot take and a half...

But were they ever not??

G'raha I can give a hard pass on that because as the CT boy and the Exarch he had a bit more to him than just being a cool character for the sake of it. But he definitely devolved into that the moment Endwalker began.

Y'shtola hasn't done anything worth a darn other than kill herself every time something's needed of her. "Fountain of knowledge" my front bottom; all the knowledge she can provide is stuff we either can come up with or other people can provide as well. "She can see through aether", yes, great, and what else? To tell us that the thing in the Tower of Zot was a dismembered man? Great, we ended up knowing about it later on regardless.

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Originally Posted by KairiElise

For me it’s Hildibrand and Minfilia. I never enjoyed the Hildibrand series, his shenanigans are annoying, he’s not funny and I couldn’t be happier to skip his cutscenes with the new relic quest line. As for Minfilia I am glad they finally got her, 4 expansions (Arr-Shb) worth and she was still useless and a waste of a character.

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I don't dislike Hildibrand as much as I dislike Godbert. I get that they're using him (or trying to) as a 'ripped chad' trope character but personally? I am sick of the repetetive, unfunny, sight of that idiot running around in his damn underpants. Oh - and the abusive parent angle is absolutely NOT funny either.

Honourable mention = G'raha Tia.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Y'shtola hasn't done anything worth a darn other than kill herself every time something's needed of her. "Fountain of knowledge" my front bottom; all the knowledge she can provide is stuff we either can come up with or other people can provide as well.

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Right? ngl, the writers using Y'shtola as a barely disguised exposition tool is...rather annoying. Like, ok, she's smart, I can get behind her being deductive, but it's one thing to be right about a theory you're puzzling together, and another to practically break the 4th wall explaining - in great detail - what's going on, and then slap "but that's just what I think" at the end. No girl, you didn't assume or guess anything, you knew!

(for what it's worth, this is also why I don't like Batman)

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Right? ngl, the writers using Y'shtola as a barely disguised exposition tool is...rather annoying. Like, ok, she's smart, I can get behind her being deductive, but it's one thing to be right about a theory you're puzzling together, and another to practically break the 4th wall explaining - in great detail - what's going on, and then slap "but that's just what I think" at the end. No girl, you didn't assume or guess anything, you knew!

(for what it's worth, this is also why I don't like Batman)

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Agreed, she's just... ugh.

Also can someone tell me how she reads? I don't understand how she's supposed to be blind but can still see aether and that somehow enables her to read?

Fandaniel.

His dialogue, his kooky mannerisms, his motivations... none of it works for me.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Fandaniel.

His dialogue, his kooky mannerisms, his motivations... none of it works for me.

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Which one? The Sad guy or the Clown?

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Agreed, she's just... ugh.

Also can someone tell me how she reads? I don't understand how she's supposed to be blind but can still see aether and that somehow enables her to read?

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That I can sort of explain because the Alchemist quests mention that our books and pages are infused with aether, and that the ink carries a given aetheric signature.

BUT

I don't think this applies to just about any ink. Has to be Enchanted Ink.
And I don't think this applies to just about anyone either. There's a massive difference between whether Y'shtola writes something versus whether the muggle barkeep at the Brume would.
Also, I think it depends on the content. If I drew dickbutt but were a muggle, would you still notice it was me the same way you would Y'shtola writing the instructions for Flow?
Now, I understand that she's sensitive to aether, but I doubt it'd be that constrasting between every other source of aether.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Which one? The Sad guy or the Clown?

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I should say, I'm only partway through Endwalker (just got to the moon and did... THAT fight). So, I don't know any "sad guy" Fandaniel, only a creepy clown Fandaniel. Maybe something happens later that will change my mind? I dunno.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

I should say, I'm only partway through Endwalker (just got to the moon and did... THAT fight). So, I don't know any "sad guy" Fandaniel, only a creepy clown Fandaniel. Maybe something happens later that will change my mind? I dunno.

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... *VISIBLE FEAR*

I'm legit turning blue right now x_x It's a bit of a spoiler. Ignore what I said.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

... *VISIBLE FEAR*

I'm legit turning blue right now x_x It's a bit of a spoiler. Ignore what I said.

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Ha ha, no worries. Considering all the wild plot twists and scope of this game, I should have known better than to assume I knew what I was talking about. Partly my fault for even posting in this thread, lol. :p

Tataru, well any lalafell really.

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Originally Posted by Johners

The generic over sexualised, probably modded on your screen female character OC. Y'know, those people on Twitter etc sharing their totally original OC that nobody ever thought of before. No, I will not address miqo'te (or other race) by "their" real name.

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You're just jealous, Jan.

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Who do I hate the most? Zenos and Asahi, easily.

Asahi, since he was just a despicable being with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Zenos was evil but he was at least entertaining about it at times.

Kanye-West of Gridania, if there’s onr real boring and annoying character, that’s her. A tree hugger and bland af. The EW tank questline with her was not only longer than the other roles, it was absolute torture.

Lolorito, how the freak this guy has been spared after his betrayal in ARR is still beyond me. The supposed 4D chess to save the sultana was bollocks, smoll and the monetarists deserved to be cut to pieces and sent to gobbues for breakfast.

Venat, with the story letting you not trust her at the start then forces you to be fully on board despite clearly making some poor choices (neither side was right anyway but still the games acts like she’s a hero, only one instance post MSQ where you can acknowledge she wasn’t right).

Y’shtola, while I don’t hate the character, she is quite bland and one dimensional. The fanservice/mascot status, being overrated mainly by thirsty players and fake-killed every expansion gets a bit old after a while. She has a few moments but yea. Not a fan.

Lyse, just a cocky goodie-2-shoes. Gets a bit better later on but left a sour taste in the mouth, no wonder they dumped her from the story.

It was lyse because she's useless and self-important. After shadowbringers, It's thancred and by a lot because of how constantly out of line he was with Ryne.

Krile and Y'shtola

Krile should have been dead after what garleans did to her.

Y'shtola because she has cheated death 3 times.

Hildebrand because everything involved is so cringe. Y'shtola despite being cute tired of cheating death and then whenever she does die will have no meaning.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Y'shtola because she has cheated death 3 times.

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She has a whole 6 more lives to go!