As a Non-Native English Speaker This Game is the Most Hellish Game I Have Ever Played

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Koji Fox is the co-lead world and lore writer. He doesn't just head the localization. A lot of the lore and writing he provides is made by him and even localized into Japanese.

Also, your idea that localization should be "invisible" is not universally accepted. Cut-and-paste translations of games are just awkward. If past translators didn't take liberties, then we'd still have "Tina" instead of "Terra", Kefka would be considered a "laughing idiot" character like he was in Japan, and we'd have "phantom beasts" instead of "espers". And that's just one translator's work in one game. Translation can give more to the game. For example, the interesting descriptions of the diadem materials in the English version vs "this is a skybuilder material" in Japanese. You may have your own opinions, but you're outnumbered in this thread.

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Translation and localization are not the same thing. A good translation gets the meaning of a sentence from a language to another without making it sound strange while taking as little liberties as possible with the words, a good localization gets the traits of characters, the descriptions, of items, and such, without deviating from the original text's intent, and, if the localization team deems truly necessary, stamp out some hot button traits, ie Poison's gender in SF, or change the concept of things to fit the target audience better, for example "death" becoming the "Shadow Realm" in Yu-Gi-Oh, but making Wind-Up Moenbryda's description unnecessarily horny and Midgardsomr sound more threatening than in JP is NOT good or necessary at all.

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Originally Posted by Harlot

Its not just that, often times other characters using harsh words where they could have easily use simpler words. Like take quintessential as an example. Where you can easily say essential they are making them say quintessential, like what is the point of that rather then making it hard to understand.

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I know you're not a native speaker but you have access to the internet. If you bothered to use a search engine for just a few seconds you would find out those two words do not have the same meaning.

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Quintessential - representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class.
"he was the quintessential tough guy—strong, silent, and self-contained"

Essential - absolutely necessary; extremely important.
"it is essential to keep up-to-date records"

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I understand you may not want to google anything to understand something in a game, but perhaps you should do so before using something as an example to criticise it.

Also quintessential is a word I came across a lot long before FFXIV was even a game. It's not an outdated or rarely used word.

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Originally Posted by Sicno

And that's why he has been reprimanded multiple times for changing things without prior consultation? Like Haurchefaunt's personality.

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Reprimanded by whom?

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Originally Posted by Steelbreaker25

Reprimanded by whom?

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Ok, I just went to take another look into some things and I learned that Haurchefant (which was the case in localization discrepancies that made a lot of noise back in the day, with Yoshi P asking wtf happened there) was on John Crow and not Koji. Maybe I am giving him more shit than he deserves.

That said, he did get in trouble with Yoshi for the whole Starboard/Larboard fiasco (and previously for Bright/Dark Blade in Tsukuyomi) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/374470999?t=03h56m42s

And he had to apologize for the 3.5 MSQ spoilerific title https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post3998489

I’ve been here in one avatar or another since the October after the Realm was Reborn.

About once every 2 months someone complains about the archaic English form.

Some people agree.

Some people accuse the ones who agree, of being under-educated, and to “Get Learned”.

Methinks it h’ain’t a-gonna change, ayuh. So let fly wit’ yer bilious bellyachin’ to heart’s content, say yer piece, and move on.

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Originally Posted by CatStarPrime

Methinks it h’ain’t a-gonna change, ayuh. So let fly wit’ yer bilious bellyachin’ to heart’s content, say yer piece, and move on.

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Blimey, u bein a bit rood, innit?