During Yokai watch event, make fate bosses immune to Doom please

Really it's not the fault of people doing it, if something exists, people WILL do it. Look at what happened with Ishgard Restoration. If SE doesn't fix it, fair game.

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

That would be Stormblood as a whole (maybe with the exception of a small part of Fringes).

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I'm talking about ARR, even in areas where some bosses are vulnerable, others are immune, there must be a reason behind why some are and others are not.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Sometimes there is nothing that can be done but ruin the fun for all, so have to be careful with that of course- there is such a thing as one person ruining for the bunch. Which is why I thought if they are going to make things immune for this event they only do so temporarily.

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The irony is people probably dont know that I dont doom boss mobs and typically just resort to using my insta cast aoe spells over missile. Simply because it better ensures I get decent credit.

You want to ask people if they could be a good sport and not insta kill mobs, feel free to ask. It would be polite to say sure and just use magic skills, but what must be understood is when you ask something of someone, they dont have to say yes and that doesnt make them a bad person. If you expect or require they say yes to a request, then its not a request, its a demand. And its one in service of yourself at cost to them.

So always feel free to ask that people dont use it, but dont get upset and demand the class be nerfed cause people decide to say no to your request. Theyre playing within the scope of the game using the skills provided in a contextually relevant environment.

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Originally Posted by Juicymama

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

The irony is people probably dont know that I dont doom boss mobs and typically just resort to using my insta cast aoe spells over missile. Simply because it better ensures I get decent credit.

You want to ask people if they could be a good sport and not insta kill mobs, feel free to ask. It would be polite to say sure and just use magic skills, but what must be understood is when you ask something of someone, they dont have to say yes and that doesnt make them a bad person. If you expect or require they say yes to a request, then its not a request, its a demand. And its one in service of yourself at cost to them.

So always feel free to ask that people dont use it, but dont get upset and demand the class be nerfed cause people decide to say no to your request. Theyre playing within the scope of the game using the skills provided in a contextually relevant environment.

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I think it's fine for people to ask for a nerf if it's messing with their enjoyment but I also don't think that nerf would be good for the very limited value blue mage already has. Also would be another item to make their reasons why they did what they did seem half followed through / not valid.

Or in other words if SE made one job deal 100% more damage than another due to some really terrible balance decisions it would be better for players to be yelling at SE and not the players choosing to use that imbalanced job, using an all black mage group to over power Garuda, and the players upset that their job is a joke because of this imbalance are well within their right to ask SE to do something about it. They are also allowed to be upset if players are doing something annoying buuuuuuut if the player is doing something well within the design of the game (like doom or missile is) then no right to actually demand they stop as much as "god you're annoying" lol. Again, talk to SE and address the frustration that way then as the players are doing as intended.

Intended today could be gone tomorrow, these things are not generally fixed in stone, even the things in stone are not technically always so.

So.. ye.. no? I agree people should ask politely, I view that the onus is on SE more than it is on players, and I also agree it's probably not the majority causing the majority of problems and like almost anything in life it's usually the minority of a subset causing majority issues, but I don't agree if you're suggesting players are not allowed to say "Hey SE, this is killing my fun- this job is damaging my experience".

Of course I also would say the job has limited value and this is part of that limited value, if you take away this then the job is even more of a joke (clearly not trying to hide my frustration with it lol), such that I think changing this part of the job should only be done either special occasion and temporarily or should come with a much larger overhaul all together (of course I'm pipe dreaming for the overhaul but being realistic by suggesting something temporary).

Edit: just to make sure when I was mentioning one person can ruin it for everyone I wasn't accusing you lol, not sure if you were responding generally back to me or not but just wanted to make sure when I said that I was speaking generally as well. :p

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Originally Posted by Kamome-chan

Here's what you gonna do

Take a job like ninja/monk/dragoon or a caster like black mage and do the event alone

Come back and tell us how much you like no getting any fates done or only getting bronze at most because blues are obliterating fates

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Ninja has Death Blossom, Monk has their entire aoe rotation, Dragoon has Doom Spike, BLM has Blizzard 2. All of these skills require no target to begin casting. Stand where mobs spawn, spam your aoes.

The outpouring of frankly insane toxicity I've been seeing in-game from the 'Anti-bluemage' camp has made it really hard for me to sympathize.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Ninja has Death Blossom, Monk has their entire aoe rotation, Dragoon has Doom Spike, BLM has Blizzard 2. All of these skills require no target to begin casting. Stand where mobs spawn, spam your aoes.

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In the distance, you can hear the joyous laughter of tanks using their no target AOE skills.

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Originally Posted by Juicymama

Imagine lv 80 blu with lv 80 blu spells doing lv 80 content in a group of blu. The dream.

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By the twelve I wish

FWIW, it feels like they've increased the drop rate of the medals. I did fate running in HW the other day and got every medal for the 2 minions within an hour or two. The drop rate was definitely greater than 50%.

They've also greatly reduced the number of legendary medals per weapon. It used to increase with each turn-in, now it's a flat ten each.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Ninja has Death Blossom, Monk has their entire aoe rotation, Dragoon has Doom Spike, BLM has Blizzard 2. All of these skills require no target to begin casting. Stand where mobs spawn, spam your aoes.

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That would work if the minions didnt require specific zones to drop medals. Most of those zones are ranging from lvl 5 fates to lvl 20 fates. But thats kinda problem with game not BLU. Lower level fate mobs die either with 2 hits or feel like they have 100k health and you do 100 per skill.