Nier raid 2b outfit rant.

God forbid you people have to wait a few weeks before you get the new hot glamour item. :v Oh the humanityyyyy. It isn't like we're going to be running this 24 man raid every week till the new patch comes out... oh wait we are doing exactly that!

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Originally Posted by Lacan

God forbid you people have to wait a few weeks before you get the new hot glamour item. :v Oh the humanityyyyy. It isn't like we're going to be running this 24 man raid every week till the new patch comes out... oh wait we are doing exactly that!

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Since ppl who already got it, can reroll on it, we basically roll against 23 ppl everytime, every weeks. So the chance of getting it won't increase with time.
Hopefully most people that already got it, won't reroll on it.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd777

Since ppl who already got it, can reroll on it, we basically roll against 23 ppl everytime, every weeks. So the chance of getting it won't increase with time.
Hopefully most people that already got it, won't reroll on it.

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Why would people roll again and something they have and there’s no reason to have two of? I got it and will pass going forward. I’m not going to go out of my way to be a jerk, especially when there is zero benefit. I think your chances will only get better. Eventually we will hit a point where hardly anyone wants it, like any hot item.

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Originally Posted by ToniRomo

Why would people roll again and something they have and there’s no reason to have two of? I got it and will pass going forward. I’m not going to go out of my way to be a jerk, especially when there is zero benefit. I think your chances will only get better. Eventually we will hit a point where hardly anyone wants it, like any hot item.

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You answered your own question regarding why someone would roll again. There are people who don’t need a reason other than this! Just look at people who roll on cards after it’s already in their collection - I don’t think the MGP for trade-in is worth possibly keeping someone else from having the card but others do.

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

You answered your own question regarding why someone would roll again. There are people who don’t need a reason other than this! Just look at people who roll on cards after it’s already in their collection - I don’t think the MGP for trade-in is worth possibly keeping someone else from having the card but others do.

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Exactly. Why are people surprised that others often go out of their way to troll people? This is just another way to do that, and one that they've apparently decided to make completely game legal to do.

Well, you have already seen in this thread. People want one for them, and each of their retainers as well. Plus, there are also probably the people who roll on it just to roll on it. Don't know why they would still be farming it, probably for the regular drop glam I guess.

Lack of faith in some people and now kinda ironic that op has it now

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Well, you have already seen in this thread. People want one for them, and each of their retainers as well. Plus, there are also probably the people who roll on it just to roll on it. Don't know why they would still be farming it, probably for the regular drop glam I guess.

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Which I don't get. They can glam the gear of the retainer and put it on them. You need exactly one copy of any glam to make all your retainers look like 2B.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Well, you have already seen in this thread. People want one for them, and each of their retainers as well.

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Considering this is a lvl1 gear, you obviously won't make your retainer wear them. But you're completely free to spread it as a glamour on everything you'll give to them.

There was a post buried a few pages back where the guy said he wanted one for each retainer. Too lazy to find it though. lol.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

There was a post buried a few pages back where the guy said he wanted one for each retainer. Too lazy to find it though. lol.

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Yeah and that post was made by our forums dedicated troll

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

There was a post buried a few pages back where the guy said he wanted one for each retainer. Too lazy to find it though. lol.

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Despite the fact you can just glam over the retainer gear

I won with a 93 roll
/mmambo

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Originally Posted by Duskane

Yeah and that post was made by our forums dedicated troll

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Well, it's not far from the truth any way. People are needing on the coffer(s) even though they have it still. Even if they truly don't actually need it. I've farmed this more than I'd like to admit like 11 times and still lose on 90+ rolls every time. :(

I am kind of out of date with the who's on this forum nowadays. :p

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Originally Posted by Duskane

Yeah and that post was made by our forums dedicated troll

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https://i.imgur.com/5oWA3NA.png?1

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Originally Posted by Lacan

https://i.imgur.com/5oWA3NA.png?1

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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...dlQbOJxnhaEip-

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

You answered your own question regarding why someone would roll again. There are people who don’t need a reason other than this! Just look at people who roll on cards after it’s already in their collection - I don’t think the MGP for trade-in is worth possibly keeping someone else from having the card but others do.

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The amount of people doing this will be very small.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

https://i.imgur.com/5oWA3NA.png?1

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Please, never leave us.

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

Please, never leave us.

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I never plan on it my child.

Also, looks like someone else won their roll:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIHe9O9X0AAXVia.jpg:large

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Once get the 2b outfit not running it ever again not when only getting ilvl 460 gear from it. You can craft ilvl 450 gear and upgrade it to 460 now why giving suck low ilvl gear for really hard raid. We should be getting ilvl 475 gear from it not 460. Aiming head piece got just shb tanks head piece with a blindfold to it. I have same hood as it in my glamour dress for my tank just without the blindfold to it.

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You've now just made it mandatory for every single raider to do the 24 man. i475 gear is better than Savage. Why in the world would an easy raid offer better gear?

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Originally Posted by hynaku

No its not easy not when my rdm had to raise all the healers and 2 tanks because they was all dead. second boss only 6 of team a was alive when it died all rest of the alliance all dead and your telling me its easy don't think so. I see to many deaths for it to even be considered to be easy. when take hour and half of your time to not get one items from it makes you really want run ever again. When only get to play few hours each day. Pretty sure it will be nerfed hard soon. 2 times I ran it and both times got nothing think the average is over 200 deaths per run.

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People being bad doesn't mean the content is somehow hard. They're just bad.

Lost on a roll of 99. Wow.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Lost on a roll of 99. Wow.

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You know who won it instead??

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...unknown-24.png

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Originally Posted by Lacan

I never plan on it my child.

Also, looks like someone else won their roll:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIHe9O9X0AAXVia.jpg:large

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https://media.giphy.com/media/lIU7yoG72gyhq/giphy.gif

Zenos yae Glamorous.

Got the costume on 2nd run...... :D

You basically have a 12.5% chance every run of getting the costume it's 3 of them per run so it's not that bad.

Can someone post a picture of a hyur female wearing the pants/shoes but no top? I heard we get butts now.

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Originally Posted by Sayura_

Can someone post a picture of a hyur female wearing the pants/shoes but no top? I heard we get butts now.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Butt-Sliders

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Butt-Sliders

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Thank you!

God bless these pants. Time to fantasia back~

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Originally Posted by Raiya

Got the costume on 2nd run...... :D

You basically have a 12.5% chance every run of getting the costume it's 3 of them per run so it's not that bad.

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Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think thats how odds work, isnt it actually 1:24 for the first chest, 1:23 the second and finally 1:22?

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Originally Posted by Frooty

Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think thats how odds work, isnt it actually 1:24 for the first chest, 1:23 the second and finally 1:22?

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I don’t think that’s even the case since we have to roll a number. I’m no numbers expert though, I don’t think in a rolling system that it’s ever 1:24 chance of winning.

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

I don’t think that’s even the case since we have to roll a number. I’m no numbers expert though, I don’t think in a rolling system that it’s ever 1:24 chance of winning.

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The way I think of the chances are as follows:

Since there’s 3 coffers and 24 individuals (and individuals that have won the coffer before can roll again despite having the gear, so there’s no hard lockout on it), I imagine that your first chance would likely be 3:24, or 1:8 of a chance to win a coffer on your first roll. After the first coffer is claimed, you still have 2 more rolls and are now against 23 other people—so 2:23. After the second coffer is claimed, you have 1 remaining chance against the remaining 22 individuals, so 1:22. This isn’t factoring in crap rolls going against high 90s or anything—just basic odds.

But I could be wrong.

I think thats right actually, been forever since i took probabiliy tho

odds at getting a coffer is 1:24 you just get 3 chances of that ratio
This can change(should but seeing as you can reroll on them >_>) to 1:23 then 1:22 at best(if everyone wants) after the 1st and 2nd coffer has been distributed respectfully.
but if you get someone who use coffer while in duty then rerolls for another(just being mean if do that) you could be perpetually stuck with a 1:24 ratio (if someone rerolls after winning and using the coffer i wouldn't put it past them to discard and reroll on the 3rd <- being a very very small minority of people).

There is also no way of knowing who has had the coffer already as well and won't reroll and those that do not care for it in the slightest so your luck can range from 3x 1:24 ratio to a 1:1 ratio where you get it automatically just blind luck really.

You can’t use the coffer inside of duties—it can only be opened in city-states. But that doesn’t stop a person who won one coffer in their last run from using it, re-queuing, and then rolling again.

I only included 3:24 since you have a bit higher odds on the first roll given that you have 3 different lots to bump your chances of rolling lucky. But your odds decrease significantly after that first coffer is awarded. I also just used the default scenario of “everyone lots for it” as opposed to considering factors where x amount of people decided not to roll at all. Obviously, your odds change with that as well—but I’m just speaking “in general”.

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Originally Posted by Frooty

I think thats right actually, been forever since i took probabiliy tho

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Same.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

You can’t use the coffer inside of duties—it can only be opened in city-states. But that doesn’t stop a person who won one coffer in their last run from using it, re-queuing, and then rolling again.

I only included 3:24 since you have a bit higher odds on the first roll given that you have 3 different lots to bump your chances of rolling lucky. But your odds decrease significantly after that first coffer is awarded. I also just used the default scenario of “everyone lots for it” as opposed to considering factors where x amount of people decided not to roll at all. Obviously, your odds change with that as well—but I’m just speaking “in general”.



Same.

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But they can still discard it(most won't thankfully) and could then reroll which is an issue with no real way to prevent in case someone who did it accidentally >_>, if you allow one possiblity(no one doing the aforementioned action) you gotta allow them all which leaves the ratio at 1:24 at worst

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Originally Posted by Lacan

You know who won it instead??

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...unknown-24.png

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Emel Sexy. This isn't even his final form....

As for continuously obtaining the chest, I would say that would be a more realistic and sooner seen issue to solve vs overhauling the system. All they have to do is do it like how you can't loot mount items once its already in your character's system. Probably a bit more elaborate to code since mounts just go to a tab and the clothes can be literally anywhere on your character's accessible inventories (retainer/dresser/etc). I suppose if they had that much sorted out, you'd only ever be able to have one map across all inventories.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

The way I think of the chances are as follows:

Since there’s 3 coffers and 24 individuals (and individuals that have won the coffer before can roll again despite having the gear, so there’s no hard lockout on it), I imagine that your first chance would likely be 3:24, or 1:8 of a chance to win a coffer on your first roll. After the first coffer is claimed, you still have 2 more rolls and are now against 23 other people—so 2:23. After the second coffer is claimed, you have 1 remaining chance against the remaining 22 individuals, so 1:22. This isn’t factoring in crap rolls going against high 90s or anything—just basic odds.

But I could be wrong.

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Your odds get even better when you consider people who aren't rolling on the coffer. I stopped as soon as I found out that the gear inside doesn't change to the outfit 9S wears when worn by a male character, and as that information becomes more known, more people will stop rolling on it.

I kinda calculated a 4.3% to 4.4% from getting the chest if 24 people roll for it and if two people got it already respectively. So you have 3 chances of roughly 4-ish% of getting it. If the chest were split on each alliance, it would be a 12%. Here is when I'm confused... 3 attempts of 4% or 1 attempt of 12%? What's better?

Likely if they're giving out a costume a run we get 9S for the next one and A2 on the final.

Honestly they should have just made this a quest reward instead of raid. I get the argument of it gets people doing the raid more than once but as it stands people are gonna be doing it weekly for their gear and coin anyway. On top of that allowing people who have already won it roll again if they so please it just a kick in the dick to the people are trying to win it for the first time. I've done this raid 14 times already and every single time RNG gives me the middle finger salute and that's that.