Free 2 Play still being considered?

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Originally Posted by Maxthunder

I agree with you completely!! F2p is not worth it at all. A lot of people if FFXIV goes f2p will stop playing. I also think by going to f2p it will hurt them more in the long term than it is worth. Ok so granted they may make possibly more money, but at the same time those that leave due to f2p will have their hands in not recommending the game to others. As some1 suggested earlier if they do decide to go f2p keep them seperate from the p2p players.

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What is with everyone and all these assumptions....

You have no clue what F2P would entail for SE. So, stop projecting other F2P systems' problems onto an SE payment model. Like Moonchild mentioned, we've already seen what happens when the game is still in the "developmental stage" and subscriptions are initiated.

Imagine what will happen if the 2.0 doesn't meet consumers' expectations...Do you honestly believe that anyone in their right mind is going to waste the time of day on a game they think sucks? And, no less, on a game they have to pay for, even when they don't use it.

I played and quit XI off and on for 6 or so years. And, sadly, at least 4 of those years, I didn't even have a subscription. I couldn't justify paying $13/mth for a game I didn't even feel like logging onto. If it had been F2P, I would have probably logged on here and there.

And every now and then, just like w/ any other game, I'd get back in the mood to play it. And if SE could have found ways to capitalize on my "fleeting moments of desire" (with a F2P model and some incentives), they could have continued milking me for a pretty significant chunk of change.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

everything else is a wow-clone with no story at all :( just quest,dungeon,pvp -.-

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Now that's completely untrue. TERA, Blade and Soul, Guild Wars 2, etc. Granted, I really don't care to play any of those games at all. But the game going f2p would not affect the content, it'd affect how much you pay.

The monthly fee isn't much to pay at all. You could scrap that up mowing someone's lawn, lol. I agree the reason people left and never came back is because it's a bad game, has nothing to do with how much it costs to play. If people like something, they're gonna pay for it. I like food, you don't see me digging it out of trash cans just because it's free that way.

F2P nothx, would be a very bad move by SE IMO. Like others said, they aren't really free.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Rau I just have to ask

wanna do dynamis? thats 20 bucks down in order to unlock the classics, and another 20 to unlock the promathia ones.
wanna do salvage? thatl be another 20 bucks
wanna do the cop storyline? 5 bucks per chapter

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they call that expansion packs last i checked :P

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Originally Posted by Seth_Ahriman

they call that expansion packs last i checked :P

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FFXI's expansions had much more content than that in them.

I don't see why anyone would want a Free to Play model, where we get less than what we currently get with a subscription.

Most free to play models are a horrible value. They give less, for a higher price under the assumption that the current/classic MMO subscription model was more appropriate for casual players who could not play all the content the game had to offer.

So to get that level of content they expect the minority of the "hardcore players" to pay a much larger higher price through injecting all shorts of microtransactions. Well how many people who played FFXI for all those years, with the expansions etc. did not get to play through a large amount of all content?

I played FFXI whether you were in a large "hardcore" linkshell or not even on the worst server you had opportunities to do all sorts of content. Expansions are fine, but when they start cutting up content into micro-transactions I think most people end up getting much less and paying more for what they do get than they ever would have.

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Originally Posted by Riv

The monthly fee isn't much to pay at all. You could scrap that up mowing someone's lawn, lol. I agree the reason people left and never came back is because it's a bad game, has nothing to do with how much it costs to play. If people like something, they're gonna pay for it. I like food, you don't see me digging it out of trash cans just because it's free that way...

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It has nothing to do with it being a bad game. We all play bad games, all the time... We get tired of playing CoD or Halo, and we don't get online for a week or 2 sometimes (maybe longer). We played XI for a few months, got tired of it, and didn't pay for a month or two, or three. You wanna know why ppl stop playing "bad" games for months at a time, instead of weeks?

Either the game is SO AWFUL that they can't bear the thought of burning any time, energy, or effort on it, OR because they're having to dish out an irritating amount of cash each month just to have *access to play it (even if they don't, actually, play). Naturally, there are time constraints as well, but that isn't the problem here.

The server population is even more desolate than it was before. Even though the game sucked, people were still playing. Just what, exactly, do you attribute the loss of players to, other than monthly payments?

If this game isn't a HUGE success at 2.0, and they're still charging monthly payments, it's gonna die.

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Originally Posted by Riv

....F2P nothx, would be a very bad move by SE IMO. Like others said, they aren't really free.

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And, once again....Did you not read ANYTHING anyone else said? There are so many more ways to design an F2P model, than just the shi**y way you think it works. So, stop dismissing F2P just b/c you had a bad experience.

CPP releases expansion packs for EVE Online for free, plus they do P2P/F2P options. You can buy game time cards with EVE in game currency. Some people actually make 500M ISK a month and they use it to buy 1 month game time.

Above that, EVE Online is hardcore and a popular game.

If FF become F2P, they should do it like Guild wars in my opinion. I loved Guild Wars and that was 1 of the reasons I like it, paid for entire expansion and the game ( 3 in total), everything else was cosmetic or extra quests