Male Spring Bottoms. What the hell?

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Originally Posted by Usho

That being said....Hien glamour....WHEN???

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This is a very important question that must be answered

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Originally Posted by Roukiz

https://i.imgur.com/hhNLYTD.png

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https://78.media.tumblr.com/217f1977...zuduo1_500.gif
https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show...s_anvver_8.jpg

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

Shorts rolled up above the knee look ridiculous on any grown man in any setting.... if you want shorts suggest cargo shorts, board shorts, athletic shorts... and where is this magical land where men roll their shorts over their knees?

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https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...a884c338f9.jpg

This doesn't look ridiculous to you?

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/0e...e5ebb57_36.png

And this? Where is the magical land where people wear giant bird and pig suits?


I will never understand people that complain about clothing additions/modifications in this game. If you don't like it, ..... just... don't wear it? Aside from the fact that men irl do actually wear shorts like that, the concept of "logical fashion" clearly has very little bearing in a place like FFXIV. We experience a world where there are cat people, lizard people, and giants birds that are used for transportation, and rolled up jean shorts are ridiculous? Come on.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

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https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show...s_anvver_8.jpg

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Mom jeans are actually fashionable now if u pull a gucci on it lol.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

This is a very important question that must be answered

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Simple, When he's out of the story or gets a new outfit.

UGH Your kidding!!! why is SE so afraid of trying something different for male armor ?! Another pair of slacks that look like everything else thats been done over and over again.

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Originally Posted by QueenSophie

the only dudes rolling up jean shorts above their knees, live in MSP or Seattle, and maybe 1 person in the whole XIV player base does this.

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I'd love to know where you get your information lmfao.

The fact that its pants for male isn't even the issue. The fact that the shirt looks elegant and French and they gave us fucking blue jeans to go with it is an affront. :/

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Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd

The fact that its pants for male isn't even the issue. The fact that the shirt looks elegant and French and they gave us fucking blue jeans to go with it is an affront. :/

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It's almost like they didn't care to even make the set cohesive within its own separate pieces!

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Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd

The fact that its pants for male isn't even the issue.

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*** to you

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Originally Posted by QueenSophie

I do think it would be a cool glam, but thiniing that alot of people wear shorts like this is a bit much.

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Thinking that no one wears them is more than just a bit much, lol.

I wonder if anyone who speaks Japanese would be able to make a thread in the Japanese subforum asking their opinion as well? Things only really seem to get done if Japanese players are upset about it. :')

I'll never understand the idea of the devs being uncomfortable with men.

Right now, I could go watch a highlander in nothing but a couerl print speedo thrust his crotch into the face of a catboi wearing their racial and gender exclusive crop top, but apparently some shorts is crossing the line?

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Originally Posted by Oce

*** to you

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Seriously. I honestly expected stylish breeches and longboots, like a french military school might have but Fashion Report has generally been a disappointment all around so Mom Jeans shouldnt be a surprise at this point.

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Originally Posted by QueenSophie

...dudes rolling up jean shorts...

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the artisan's culottes are a thing. granted they're not jeans but they are literally cuffed shorts and look perfectly fine :v

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Originally Posted by killstein

the artisan's culottes are a thing. granted they're not jeans but they are literally cuffed shorts and look perfectly fine :v

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Yet another example of how inconsistant male glamour options are in this game.

I figured they would've made them go down to the knees on the males.

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Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd

Seriously. I honestly expected stylish breeches and longboots, like a french military school might have but Fashion Report has generally been a disappointment all around so Mom Jeans shouldnt be a surprise at this point.

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I would have been fine with that if it was for both genders. Just make two versions and make them unisex, it's really not difficult. Everyone's happy that way. If they're going to go through the effort of modelling two versions anyway...

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

I'll never understand the idea of the devs being uncomfortable with men.

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I'm not so sure it's about being uncomfortable, but more so about favoring the majority. Female characters greatly outnumber male characters, and they always will. Unfortunately SE doesn't see a reason to actually listen to male character requests.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

Female characters greatly outnumber male characters, and they always will

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It's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. A lot of people only play female characters because of how bad the male characters' glamour options are.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

I'm not so sure it's about being uncomfortable

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I'm probably not able to find the source, but I'm pretty sure the uncomfortable excuse is literally what they told us when we asked why the male bunny suit was taking so long.

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

I'm probably not able to find the source, but I'm pretty sure the uncomfortable excuse is literally what they told us when we asked why the male bunny suit was taking so long.

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I feel like this is something that needs a source.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I feel like this is something that needs a source.

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Agreed. Despite the fact that female characters being the majority seems like a much more reasonable and logical explanation as to why the glamour situation is the way it is currently, I have a hard time believing that devs would come right out and say they're uncomfortable with males.

The reason that was 'officially' given when asked about the bunny suit in PAX was this:

https://i.imgur.com/ADVnwjr.png


"Here's a hefty claim about the devs, but I don't have a source" isn't really effective.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. A lot of people only play female characters because of how bad the male characters' glamour options are.

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This, they basically corner themselves to it. Well, I don't think it's corner, but more of "lets just focus on what we do right instead of fixing what we do wrong".

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

This, they basically corner themselves to it. Well, I don't think it's corner, but more of "lets just focus on what we do right instead of fixing what we do wrong".

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I agree. When I brought up this issue with friends of mine, I received "Why don't you just play a female then?" as a response, which to me is absurd. I'm a male, and I like playing masculine characters. There's nothing wrong with males playing females, but it's not something I choose to do, and "Play a female" is a ridiculous answer to the issue.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I feel like this is something that needs a source.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

"Here's a hefty claim about the devs, but I don't have a source" isn't really effective.

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Perfectly fair. I'm pretty certain they said this in one of those Q&A things, but I can't really find it. To be honest, I don't even know what they're called or where they're even done at. If anyone can just tell me of the places they normally do these, I'd be glad to do a better search.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

I agree. When I brought up this issue with friends of mine, I received "Why don't you just play a female then?" as a response, which to me is absurd. I'm a male, and I like playing masculine characters. There's nothing wrong with males playing females, but it's not something I choose to do, and "Play a female" is a ridiculous answer to the issue.

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I've played both male and female and tend to switch around. But one of the things which I tend to play more as female than male is exactly how often I see males getting the designs with the least effort, or just down-right make you question their irl dress code. I wish they would just make more gear design contests for glam items too, and be much more open to ideas rather than "what fits the game"/"lore-friendly".

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

Perfectly fair. I'm pretty certain they said this in one of those Q&A things, but I can't really find it. To be honest, I don't even know what they're called or where they're even done at. If anyone can just tell me of the places they normally do these, I'd be glad to do a better search.

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To be honest, the only thing that seems to be consistent with kept information is the Letters from Producers. Your best bet with finding all of the Q&A panels might be reddit. Kinda just have to search around.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

To be honest, the only thing that seems to be consistent with kept information is the Letters from Producers. Your best bet with finding all of the Q&A panels might be reddit. Kinda just have to search around.

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Lawd have mercy. Searching through Reddit is....difficult to say the least.

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Originally Posted by basketofseals

Lawd have mercy. Searching through Reddit is....difficult to say the least.

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Lol agreed. I'm not sure why stuff like Q&A panels isn't posted on the main site. Not everyone has the ability to attend PAX events.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

It's weird to me that something like this

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1gDLsI...ll-Up-Cuff.jpg

makes the dev team so uncomfortable to the point where the item shown in the OP is the alternative they'd rather have.

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Maybe legs are considered a private part in japan. (of course I'm joking)

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

I agree. When I brought up this issue with friends of mine, I received "Why don't you just play a female then?" as a response, which to me is absurd. I'm a male, and I like playing masculine characters. There's nothing wrong with males playing females, but it's not something I choose to do, and "Play a female" is a ridiculous answer to the issue.

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I especially don't want to play a female character, due to IRL circumstances, and I'm sure there are many others who wouldn't even dream of it. That doesn't mean I don't want access to a variety of cute clothes, though.

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Would it really have been so hard to job-unlock this for the spring pants, SE?

Gender locking gear or changing gear based on gender is ridiculous. If some people want to dress a certain way, let them dress a certain way. If you don't want to dress your character like that, don't. Make OPTIONS. It's not a hard concept...

they dont want us showing our superior bodies