Removal of Surnames

OoooooKkkk.

I love the surnames. I'm surprised they didn't do it before. FF games almost always have surnames.

I really don't understand what the big deal is. What difference does it make what other people's names are? With everything that needs improving, this really just seems like a very silly thing to argue about.

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That still does not fix the problem of everyone running around with retarded names, and randomAss last names, almost none of which are clever in the least.

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Coming from a guy named Belgianrofl
Failed argument x 2
http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content...-epic-fail.jpg

I like my name

plus getting rid of them now would cause so many naming conflicts it wouldnt even be funny.

Surnames allowed many players to pick the name they wanted. And I put a lot of effort into picking both my name and last name and they both have a meaning that works together. So no, don't remove surnames. Just make a better tell system so that you get an autocomplete when setting the tell.

Maleena, you point out that my name is stupid as if to disprove my argument that requiring surnames makes people's names sound stupid.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

@ Loony Bob, I love your signature!

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Credit goes to black orb (link) of EoFF. :) Incredible artist.

I like the surnames myself, I think it's pretty cool that you can run into someone with the same first name as you. But I suppose they could make surnames optional for those who do not need or want them...

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I like the surnames myself, I think it's pretty cool that you can run into someone with the same first name as you. But I suppose they could make surnames optional for those who do not need or want them...

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I agree, sometimes people don't feel it necessary to have more than one name. But for mine however, its actually a name with a hyphen, but it didn't allow it so I had to split it up, which I'm OK with.

alternatively if you dont think you need a first name just make the first name a title or honorary

Fencer Joe

Lancer Kim

Chocobo Pete

Lively Naomei

Loud Ming

Sweaty Hong

Saint Azura

I'm neutral on the subject. I just knew I didn't want a long name this time around. I disliked being a taru and having an obnoxious amount of text floating above my character.

I think, the surname should be something that's obtained at rank 50, that was the one decent thing about Warhammer online, the surname, if chosen to get one, was only obtainable at a certain level. Just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

I miss the /tell <t> command for sure,why did they remove that it helped alot....

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This >.> ^^^^

The /tell function would most definitely be more fluid if a {/search all} function is implemented.

I'm not against surnames but I'm not for them either. All I ask is that if they are changed, let us change our actual name. My name is The Dubont. I don't want my name stuck as The for the rest of the game...

I agree Belgian!

Also,

<3

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

If you are in defense of surnames, please know that your name sucks and is not memorable to anyone other than yourself (unless you're Belgian, Rofl, that is...)

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Oh, Belgian, you so silly! =P

The 'official' reason was so that FFXI players could safely bring their character names to FFXIV and not have to worry about them being taken.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=19384

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Tanaka: It hasn't been confirmed yet, but we would like to give incentives to the players. First of all, FFXI has 32 worlds, and they may have the same name across different worlds, as I'm sure you know. Each name in each world has to be a unique; there can't be conflicts with other players. However, when we have FFXIV, we still don't know how many worlds there's going to be yet, but players might have the same name if they all move to the same world, so there may be conflicts. So, to avoid that, what we're trying to do is add a surname to their name, so players can keep their main name, but they can add something else to their surname - that way players with overlapping names can keep their names from FFXI, but they can add something on to it to make it unique.

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I like having a last name. All my characters end up having one when I write their histories.

But I'll agree they're not convenient to type. SE promised once upon a time to somehow make that easier...

one name or two names...

Not sure what is more cool
one name: OOOsephirhothOOO
or
2 names: Sephiroth Cloud

We totally need to able to use all the special characters then we could have cool names like:
/////::Sephirhoth::\\\\\

or 3 names:
Sephiroth Cloud Supersayajin

Humm, tough choice!

o.o you joking right? So if someone else had Zenaku i can't pick it and my friends are in that world so i have to go and pick other name hell no o.o Surnames allow me to have my name i don't mind the last name part.

not a big fan of surname system they've implemented, but making names become easier that people creating a new character don't need to see this... "Name not available" message. :)

I cant say i dislike the Surname system, i think i like it.You can indeed keep your main name you used for years even if someone else has it too. As for Belgianrofl's post, Even without surname system, ppl can still name their Char kiklokikopikolikoplokiko or sghftneaudikfn or other names you still wont be able to write down to talk to them. (Tho i dont understand why you would want to talk to ppl with such names rly) As for text adventure in crowded zones, that also occures in non surname games. Everywhere there is crowd, even if surnames werent there, the situation would be the same. and as for the line where those who support the surnames system their names are gay, it still has nothing to do with the surname system, but with the imagination ppl have.

I'm not reading this stupid thread for fourteen pages. It's just not important at all. To think that there are 14 pages of replies just goes to show you that a person with no legitimate argument towards making this game more enjoyable can get as many hits as those who install a thread solely for the help of the current system.

Here. I'll add my point just so everybody will not talk about this thread. The reason why they implemented the current system was because everybody tried to use the exact key names and ended up making a mockery of it by spelling it differently. Case in point. Do you know how many Squall names I seen in FFXI and how stupid it was that I seen maybe 27 different variations of it on one server? Squallx, xsquallx, xxsquallx, xxsquallxx, xsquallxxx, Squally, Squallll, etc. Hell even actual human names such as Kenneth. I seen Kenny, Kennny, Keny, Kenneth, Keneth, Kenni, Kenie, Kimmy. Jesus!

At least this time I can use my current name of Kimahri Ronso. Even though this is an actual FFX name, I have only seen one other like it. This system provides more variety so do me a favor and stop coming up with threads that doesn't help this game with it's current problems. It's rather annoying I have to go through 2 pages of threads dealing with nothing to finally come across one I'd like to see.

Every one of my threads is an idea that would absolutely benefit this game.

I'm Rockne Tekk.

I want to be known as Rockne.

Stupid Tekk.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

Every one of my threads is an idea that would absolutely benefit this game.

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Well clearly you're delusional. How exactly does this benefit the game more than your desire to change it? Simply put this is a selfish ploy to imply that somehow it's better to have one name than two. That's like Tom Hanks being called Tomhanks. Stupid.

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Every one of my threads is an idea that would absolutely benefit this game.

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No all are horrible ideas and this one is the most stupid one of them cause your surename is "rofl"
That's a thing that contradicts everything you said in this topic.

I agree with all the post I have read against surnames.

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Originally Posted by Kimahri

Well clearly you're delusional. How exactly does this benefit the game more than your desire to change it? Simply put this is a selfish ploy to imply that somehow it's better to have one name than two. That's like Tom Hanks being called Tomhanks. Stupid.

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It's like sitting down with your friend Tom Hanks for a sandwich and saying, "Hey Tom Hanks! What's your favorite sandwich meat, Tom Hanks?"

Or meeting some hot babe at the club. When she asks, "Hey there hot-stuff! What's your name?" To which you reply, "Aldroania Wasakutsumakashima".

Now that's just silly. There's a reason games that are well more populated than FFXIV don't use surnames.

If anything, surnames should be optional, and not required.

I was excited at the thought of surnames being included in FFXIV. Now that several months have passed and I see the pros and cons next to my XI experience I have to agree with the OP that surnames are worthless.

A nice middle ground would to show only the characters name but upon examination it would declare their full title with the linkshell they belong to. Thats a middle ground. Personally, I would prefer surnames be wiped and be allowed to rename and possibly re-select our races. SE is making big changes to this game and I want a chance to change too, leaving FFXIV's launch behind me with it.

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Originally Posted by Mega

I was excited at the thought of surnames being included in FFXIV. Now that several months have passed and I see the pros and cons next to my XI experience I have to agree with the OP that surnames are worthless.

A nice middle ground would to show only the characters name but upon examination it would declare their full title with the linkshell they belong to. Thats a middle ground. Personally, I would prefer surnames be wiped and be allowed to rename and possibly re-select our races. SE is making big changes to this game and I want a chance to change too, leaving FFXIV's launch behind me with it.

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So that you'd have to examine someone to send them a tell? Yeah. Good idea. Not.

Surnames will never be removed. Everyone already chose their name. Removing surnames would create an enormous amount of duplicates. How are they gonna decide who gets the name and who doesn't? First come first serve? Lottery?
SE really needs to make just another unpopular choice to make a small minority of nitpickers (as this thread abundantly demonstrates) happy.

Surnames have a simple, undeniable advantage that outweights every other consideration. Anyone can get the name he wants and he has always been known as for years on whatever game he walked into. Newbies don't need to type for hours or accept horrible pregenerated names in order to enter the game, and basically everyone can have the first name he wants, without conflicts.

In other MMORPGs the more you proceed after launch, the more you see completely nonsensical names like "Jasksasd", because all the names that make sense have been taken. Surnames in FFXIV mitigate that problem a lot.

It is a good idea. However, the best as stated before would to have made surnames optional.

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Originally Posted by BelgianRofl

It's like sitting down with your friend Tom Hanks for a sandwich and saying, "Hey Tom Hanks! What's your favorite sandwich meat, Tom Hanks?"

Or meeting some hot babe at the club. When she asks, "Hey there hot-stuff! What's your name?" To which you reply, "Aldroania Wasakutsumakashima".

Now that's just silly. There's a reason games that are well more populated than FFXIV don't use surnames.

If anything, surnames should be optional, and not required.

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there are reasons that FFXIV isnt populated, surnames isnt one of them.
no one has ever complained about surnames before.. until you.

question, do people call you "Belgian ROFL" in game? oh wait. maybe you don't even play do you?

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

there are reasons that FFXIV isnt populated, surnames isnt one of them.
no one has ever complained about surnames before.. until you.

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It was mentioned at the Core in January: http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/29511...ving-surnames/

Why is FFXIV not populated then?

there are tons of thread in this forum with the problems, are you trying to be a smart ass?

but i will try to be helpful to satisfy people like you,
we have a bad battle system, lack of content, lack of LS command, copy pasta regions, and so on.

please stop posting in this thread. it bumps the others down.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

there are tons of thread in this forum with the problems, are you trying to be a smart ass?

but i will try to be helpful to satisfy people like you,
we have a bad battle system, lack of content, lack of LS command, copy pasta regions, and so on.

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People like me? Coming from someone with baseless insults. You're rude. Just like a lalafell to have a Napoleon complex.

Belgian this is low, even for you.

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Originally Posted by Issachar

Surnames are alright. You really can't remove a feature because people picked names that didn't exactly fit in with the game.



Oh nevermind, it's just a bored kid trying to troll.

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Yes... Another troll. Please go back to WoW, Trolls. >_>
It is not the Surname that you are worried it is people creativity to name their characters.

Regards,
Llan Hana.

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Originally Posted by Llan

Yes... Another troll. Please go back to WoW, Trolls. >_>
It is not the Surname that you are worried it is people creativity to name their characters.

Regards,
Llan Hana.

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Oh shut the hell up. Troll? Are you serious? How about you get some insults that don't seem as if you're a 28 year old virgin mary who sits upstairs in her parents house wondering why virtual games is the only place she gets respect. Making me physically sick to the stomach.

Belgian. This thread seriously has to go. The thing you need to point out as a problem is the search functions. If they sorted those functions out you'd never have a problem with someone's name as long as you knew at least some of it.

please don't touch surnames, I love my char's name

Who cares if people have retarded names? It isn't any different than real life. I would like to be able to /tell someone by their first name or something to make it easier. But, I don't think they should take away surnames. There is a way to work around the surname issue.