With Eve gone, only sub based MMOs left are FFXIV and WoW

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Originally Posted by Watachy

Litterally waiting for stormblood to fix my opinion.
Actually SE is making a lot of money with the sub but ain't using it to develop innovations or content more interesting into the game.

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Clearly you were not listening to Yoshi when he indicated they were plowing profits from FFXIV back into FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Watachy

Litterally waiting for stormblood to fix my opinion.
Actually SE is making a lot of money with the sub but ain't using it to develop innovations or content more interesting into the game.

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Yoshi-P announced they'll have TRIPLE the budget for stormblood than they had for HSW. WHat are you even talking about?

To be fair, monthly subs bring little to no money. I mean 15 a month? What will they do with that.

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Originally Posted by Worldofwarcraft

To be fair, monthly subs bring little to no money. I mean 15 a month? What will they do with that.

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Hello Mr. World of Warcraft. Is this sarcasm?

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

The only 2 sub based MMOs left, and in WoW you can buy time with gold.

I really really hope the sub stays in FFXIV long term, because it will only improve the community. There needs to be some barrier of entry.

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Just because a game has a sub doesn't make it superior .. FFXIV V1 had a sub.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

I always prefer the sub based MMORPGs. It's more honest in my opinion and the sub filters out all the pixel hero kids thus making the community much more enjoyeable.

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WOW has a sub and few would accuse its' community as "enjoyable", long before you could buy time with in-game currency, which of course you have to sub for some time in order to acquire enough to pay for all your game time.

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

Just because a game has a sub doesn't make it superior .. FFXIV V1 had a sub.

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For less than 6 months, far after the game was officially a commercial flop and the reboot was annouced.
It was basically disguised crowdfunding.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Hello Mr. World of Warcraft. Is this sarcasm?

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I can state with 100% confidence that he is being sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by Worldofwarcraft

To be fair, monthly subs bring little to no money. I mean 15 a month? What will they do with that.

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Top kek.

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

Yoshi-P announced they'll have TRIPLE the budget for stormblood than they had for HSW. WHat are you even talking about?

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This announcement actually pleased me greatly. Very happy to seem them finally diverting company funds back into this game, which has been flagging on content delivery and execution for some time now. I just really hope that extra funding doesn't translate into things like "40 high-res CGI cinematics!" and nothing else, lol. Recently, non-MMO FF titles have made me a little paranoid on this front, I guess.

Those arent the only 2 left. There are a handful of others. DAoC is still live with several a decent population for a game that old and still has required Sub. KOTOR has a sub "option", and the game is practically unplayable without it. ACII has a sub and still live. TSW has a sub and still live. Darkfall Unholy Wars requires a sub. DC Universe requires a sub. Here is a full list for your reading pleasure. They are few and far between, but if you look at the games, they are the ones that have the longest legs and the most dedicated player bases regardless of total population.