3rd quest of this Moonfire Faire is ridiculous!

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Originally Posted by Sicno

Just the fireworks. Everything else is on the mog station, so don't get your hopes high to get them from in-game vendors ever again.

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yeh i have them , but my partner dosnt :P stupid mog station :P

I'm calming down about this. Nice to see fast response from the community team and a promise to improve the quest. It seems like the worst trolling players were reported by multiple people so this event might lead to some bad eggs being weeded out which is great too.

There was a good heap of griefing on my server at the beginning, but with some proper leadership and a group willing to listen, things can happen.

https://puu.sh/qqIKw/58261d1624.webm

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Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall

Person complaining: "I'm going to wake up early and log in to complete the event as quick as possible"
Everyone Else: "I'm going to wake up early and log in to complete the event as quick as possible."

And people wonder why things like this happen. Just relax and have patience, it will thin out. I just logged in got to that quest and guess what? There was no one there doing the bombs...The problem comes when everyone decides to do the same thing at the same time.

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Clearly only by making content absolutely NO ONE wants to do, will solve this! :D

Plenty of non-Japanese players have the ability to work together without being selfish jerks. It's just a few that make the rest of us look bad.

It started off crazy at first but folks figured its better to work together orderly pending any hot fix.

A couple of folks volunteered to pose to indicate where the head of the queue (pretty awesome!):
http://i.imgur.com/3aiHKNC.png

This is the queue:
http://i.imgur.com/omHfsTm.png

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Originally Posted by Novaura

So I got the first 2 challenges done no problem. Then the third challenge happened. You are supposed to weaken bombs then catch them with a Key Item. However, everyone either one-hit KOs them or if the bombs can still be caught, there are so many people around and so few bombs that you can't catch one for yourself.

How could SE be so stupid to give you only one place to hunt these bombs and so few to go around when there are so many people trying to catch them? It's like a bunch of poor people trying to get their hands on what little food is available.

So because of this, I can't finish the Moonfire Faire thanks to SE completely screwing us over. Well done, SE.

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@.@ when did this event start? when does it end? jeez not finishing the event within the first few hours is the worst, if I had a dollar for every time that happened

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Originally Posted by EU_Community_Team

Although this was picked up by a user in this thread already, we have an update from the dev. team on this topic that we'd like to share.

First of all, please accept our most sincere apologies!

We are urgently looking into countermeasures to address these issues.
That said, we will need to confirm that any fixes do not affect any other content or processes, as this could potentially lead to issues that could render FFXIV unplayable over the weekend.
We need to be very careful with these tests, so we expect the fix to be ready at the start of next week at the earliest.

Once the timing and details have been determined we will be sure to update you all!
Once again, we sincerely apologise to everyone who has been looking forward to this event.

We are working with all haste to address this. Thank you for your patience!

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If this is going to affect my weekend playtime, then do not even bother changing anything. Some of us do not do most of the seasonal events and would prefer to just play the game. Just try to learn from this mistake for the next time.

It would also be nice to have the ability to sync to the level of the bombs or have some high level ones also for those of us that only have high levels on their character. Feels weird to have to go find a low level weapon to do a quest.

I was able to get the quest done without much trouble on Ultros. A person did run up and kill one of my bombs but only once.

I'm having more trouble getting credit on the FATEs consistently (particularly the first one where the bombs all spawn in a pile and are immediately mowed down) but that'll get easier as the day 1 rush dies down.

The biggest crew up imo is how we are training the rangers. One we convince that playing with fire is good, the next we convince that binge eating frozen treats and non-stop exercise is god tier, and that last we lure into a false sense of ability. We are literally teaching them how to be worse.

I havn't even started yet but if the issue is to many people, come back later like its been said. More of a no brainer than something to complain about.

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Originally Posted by Maleficent

It started off crazy at first but folks figured its better to work together orderly pending any hot fix.

A couple of folks volunteered to pose to indicate where the head of the queue (pretty awesome!):
http://i.imgur.com/3aiHKNC.png

This is the queue:
http://i.imgur.com/omHfsTm.png

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That is very nice to see ^-^ Queues started to form on Cerberus earlier as I was leaving unsure how successful it was though.

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Originally Posted by Maleficent

This is the queue:
http://i.imgur.com/omHfsTm.png

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Do I get faster queues if I'm a tank? :D

Didn't have much trouble with any quest or fate, finished things up rather quick, got one lamp, all the emotes and music scroll, not interested in the look of the gear. :)

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Originally Posted by Celef

Sadly no woonder why dev team do not really hear us contrary to japanes forum where we do not have 4 or 5 thread talking about the same issue :/
imho 1 thread with 50 pages might be more usefull than 10 with 2 pages :/

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in all fairness considering the lack of representation we do see by the dev (zero) or forum moderators (minimal) on here I doubt the amount of threads makes a difference.
I agree we should all try to post in one area just for consistency!!! but as for its results being better?...meh.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

how they doing it in toneberry, the queue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0DfOlUQHHI

if it was not for my friends and my connection , i would totaly be in that server...

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Originally Posted by starLivitation

how they doing it in toneberry, the queue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0DfOlUQHHI

if it was not for my friends and my connection , i would totaly be in that server...

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Looks good!

However, to have this kind of situation for a quest is really amateur hour.

The last we had to line up like that for a quest was a glitched quest in beta....

Give it couple days, a week at most (since event goes till the 25th) and it will be dead and easy pickings.

I've managed to complete the whole questline in 30 minutes...
Most people didn't realize that you have to be the one landing the first hit in order to be able to capture them.
My server's Eastern La Noscea has been a mess ever since the event started.
I bet they are still annoying each other on the field.

I'm glad to see the devs apologised at least and are working to fix the issue but it still needs to be pointed out that you guys designed this very poorly. Learn your lesson next time people do shitty things to other people think these things though.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

If this is going to affect my weekend playtime, then do not even bother changing anything. Some of us do not do most of the seasonal events and would prefer to just play the game. Just try to learn from this mistake for the next time.

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You misunderstood. They said it might mess up your weekend if they rushed it. They are not rushing it. That was just to explain why it's going to even take a week before it's changed.

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Originally Posted by Maleficent

It started off crazy at first but folks figured its better to work together orderly pending any hot fix.

A couple of folks volunteered to pose to indicate where the head of the queue (pretty awesome!):
http://i.imgur.com/3aiHKNC.png

This is the queue:
http://i.imgur.com/omHfsTm.png

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lol, that takes me back to XI and waiting in the queue for certain quests.

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Originally Posted by Kitfox

It is astounding how badly this quest is designed. Every quest in an MMO should be prepared with a crowd in mind.

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I don't agree with that at all, it's like saying every quest should be designed for the zerg rush. that would be a terrible way to fram your quest design.

OMG Emergant Gameplay!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Maleficent

It started off crazy at first but folks figured its better to work together orderly pending any hot fix.

A couple of folks volunteered to pose to indicate where the head of the queue (pretty awesome!):
http://i.imgur.com/3aiHKNC.png

This is the queue:
http://i.imgur.com/omHfsTm.png

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I don't agree with that at all, it's like saying every quest should be designed for the zerg rush. that would be a terrible way to fram your quest design.

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Why not? We all treat the game this way in all count.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Why not? We all treat the game this way in all count.

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Actually, I know that I don't; and I suspect, based on your other postings, that you don't 'zerg' the game either.

Another reason why I ignore that Power-Ranger (NOT Summer-event!) Event! >_>

Tonberry lined up all civil like - so I was done in moments.

My enthusiasm for this game is starting to fade. I don't mean to sound like I'm whining but as someone who loves to collect things in the games I choose to invest in I'm really starting to grow weary. The UK campaign for the special mount and glamour set was handed incredibly poorly and I'm still waiting to hear back from the magazine company after buying an issue that had no code within it. The Yo-Kai event revolves around one of the most tedious bits of content in the game. Why not simply reward the legendary medals as a guaranteed drop at the end of a dungeon roulette? That would at least add some variety.

Then today I find that the developers didn't even account for griefing in the latest seasonal event. It should have been obvious that there would be a huge turnout on a server like Balmung...let alone that selfish players would screw people over out of spite. Sure, they plan to fix it but the fact that they didn't account for such a thing in the first place is rather troublesome.

The only fix I see with this is to open up more areas where these things spawn. Other than that, just wait till later. Thing is going to last for a month so..

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

I don't agree with that at all, it's like saying every quest should be designed for the zerg rush. that would be a terrible way to fram your quest design.

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It is the sign of an experienced developer to foresee issues caused by recurring player behaviour and take appropriate measures - it's plain and simple learning from mistakes. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And a zerg at events really is nothing new. Neither is reward maximization, which is why SE just recently had to change the way PotD upgrades work. I, at least, sure hope they'll learn from that, because otherwise they'll keep doing the same mistakes expecting different results - insanity.

In this case, I'd say it'd be as simple as to make the whole thing function like a leve-quest - you go to the area, pop the quest, tab your way through the masses to find your target, which, as leve targets are wont to do, is not attack-able by other players, and then proceed. Not only would that have fixed the issue of bombs being slaughtered, it would also have fixed the issue of 60s one-hitting the mobs, as leves can be scaled.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Actually, I know that I don't; and I suspect, based on your other postings, that you don't 'zerg' the game either.

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When it's 3 to 1 for speed runs, majority rules and I have no say in it.

Who let the bombs out is pretty frustrating when you manage to tag a bomb but 20+ overgeared people kill it in one shot lol hope they fix that ._.

I'm at like, 3 fps near the quest giver, I'll wait a couple days

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Originally Posted by Zojha

In this case, I'd say it'd be as simple as to make the whole thing function like a leve-quest - you go to the area, pop the quest, tab your way through the masses to find your target, which, as leve targets are wont to do, is not attack-able by other players, and then proceed. Not only would that have fixed the issue of bombs being slaughtered, it would also have fixed the issue of 60s one-hitting the mobs, as leves can be scaled.

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It would be easier and more MMO friendlty to use an item to 'pop' the instance like a treasure map since that system already works in the open world and the mobs are only attackable by your party.

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Originally Posted by FinaSel

So at first it was okay.
Then many people came and thought to kill bombs to complete the quest.

But, relatively quickly, most of us decided to work together to complete this.
This is the result.

http://i.imgur.com/sKjEuJq.png

We made a line, and two people take turn going in to capture the bombs.

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this was suggested on gilgamesh, people laughed. trolling continues harder lol

Yeah.. when I did this quest last night, most of the time, there was one guy jumping around, deliberately one-shotting everything and provoking people further through shouts. His excuse was that he wasn't the first one to do it.

It only takes one person to ruin it for everyone.

After he stopped, some people had a chance to get some credit. Most people are nice. New people come in and don't realize one-shotting is a thing, but just asking them to use a smaller weapon or whatnot is enough.


Personally, I don't understand why the bombards weren't at least designed like the Zahar'ak Hatchlings. When they're hurt enough that normally they would've been killed, they sit prone on the ground for a while with fixed health, giving you a chance to use your quest item on them. So even if you could one-shot them, you still have a chance.

From what I have seen the problem is most people do not realize they can't use their high level DoW/DoM gear and weapons to weaken them. When tell them to switch to DoL or DoH, even switch to low level weapon etc they seem willing to do so. Most people killing them are doing so out of ignorance rather than trolling though some are killing out of spite.