Please make the Au Ra horns separate from the faces!

I would like to see more options for all races.

With Au'ra it does feel like the horns should be separate from the face. They are such a distinct, noticeable feature.

I support this thread.

+signed
/10char

Can we have horns that look up, so we can look demonic.

Ok thanks bye :D

I hope we can get more Character Creation options for all races. I would really like more feral/beast like options on Miqot'e. Au Ra pulls this off very well with the scale patches and glowing eyes. I'd like to see stripes/leopard patches, more ear/tail type options (scruffy please) for Miqot'e. Miqote are too human. please give them more options to look beast-like like the Au Ra do.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

First thing I did after picking a face in character creation for Au Ra was look for the horn options.

Was kinda dissapointed there wasn't any :S

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This... I honestly scanned for a few minutes since i was a little tired, feeling like im just overlooking it as a weird sub option, maybe in hair? then I went back to faces and finally realized... SQUARE! why.. please fix it >:O

wow.. looks awefull -.-; Now my idea to change one of my 2 chars into a dragongirl got completly destroyed x:

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Originally Posted by Selli

I see the fabulous Man Ra and raise you one Bahamut-chan.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2iash09.jpg

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I'll have to raise the stakes even further by giving you none other than Moegardsormr!!

http://i.imgur.com/9lGx0HS.png

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Originally Posted by Zanoua

I'll have to raise the stakes even further by giving you none other than Moegardsormr!!

http://i.imgur.com/9lGx0HS.png

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Dang. He's so adorable. I think Bahamut-chan has been defeated.

Idon'tunderstandthetoastthough. XD

http://i.imgur.com/DSILoxR.png
anime toast cuz he's late for anime school!!

But thank you for the doki-off, it was a valiant duel. Also ty for bringing this thread to life, I really hope something gets done about the horns, for the sake of being on topic haha.

Signed!

I was pretty disappointed I couldn't choose the horns I wanted. I really love the third male face, but those horns are the only ones I don't like! D:

to the few people who i have seen on reddit and on here saying, "why should they make horns and faces separate just because you wanna look cute." heres a counter point against that.

keeping the faces and horns tied togeaver will shorten the amount of creative freedom people have with the race, and not just that, but visually most au ra will fall into the 'cookie cutter' category, When looking at another player the eye is drawn at different unique points about the model to see what race the player is, (Hight is not one of them unless your a male roe or lalafell.) Using miqote as an example to this point, most will look for the ears failing that they will look for the tail, for the au ra the most distinguishing features is the horns and the tail.

now this said, miqote can chose what tail they want out of nearly 8 choices, but now imagine if i told you the tails are locked to the faces you have to choose from so instead of 8 it is 4, and those 4 you cannot change at all, they are all the same, suddenly a lot of people will lose the feeling of uniqueness with there character, because of the higher chance of finding a clone of yourself, and this creates a detachment from the character. (which for rp is bad.)

so allowing the aura to freely chose there horns will open up the characters, even if it stays these 4 horn choices with no extra parts attached thats 16 possible combanations instead of 4, plus there 4 tails that moves up to 64 possible combinations. (not including tail length.)
Miqote currently have 4 faces with 8 tails meaning they have 52 possible combinations of faces with tails.

these numbers become much larger when the hair is taken into account, i think currently there is approximately 20 hairstyles in the game to choose from so that would make aprox 1280 au ra combinations with the choice of faces, horns, tails and hair.
and aprox 1040 miqote with tails, face and hair.

if the horns and the faces stayed locked the au ra would only have 320 different possible combinations, (counting the hair) that is a major gap in difference.

so please think of it this way would you rather see thousands of different looking au ra, or thousands of the same au ra running around?

One major thing I can see causing an issue with SE addressing this is the fact that scale options are linked to horns, as well as faces. So, you have scale options that are solely made to fit a certain face model and complement the scales they already have, but, they also have options for horns in the same tab. If they made the horns interchangeable, they would have to either make it so that horn option under scales changes if you swap horns, or remove the option to customize the horns with the metal caps and the like entirely. I'm no programmer, so, I don't know what they'd have to go through to sort everything properly in regards to that.

http://i.imgur.com/soNVckE.png

To me, that reason alone is sort of indicative of their idea of keeping the horns linked to faces, since scale options are a face-by-face basis. Suffice it to say, I'd much rather have greater horn customization and lose the ability to tweak them slightly, or for them to figure out a way to make those options interchangeable depending on the face and horn combination you chose. If anything, it'd just be another layer of coding I suppose to swap out that single option.

Here's hoping they're allow us that extra step of customization.

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

Here's hoping they're allow us that extra step of customization.

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I hope sooo!

Face 4 and horn 1 for females is what I want. Please SE let the horns be separate. I'll sign this.

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

TOO LATE GUYS! If we know 6mths back, they probably can change, now it is TOO LATE.

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This is probably a more trivial change to decouple the horns from the face, like they decoupled the breast size from the face in V1 to V2. (REMEMBER THAT?)

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

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The Scale options are tied to the face. None of the scale options have anything to do with the horns either except weither or not there are "Clasps" on the horns. They could rearange that so that the Horn Clasps would now be in the Horn Options so that when you pick your horn choice it can then say "ok do you want clasps now"?

I whole HEARTEDLY sign this. I love the faces and the horns but yes, very underwhelmed that they are so static in choice. Especially since the scales don't change color with skin tone, we should definitely have a choice of horns separate from face!

Also, I keep trying to make that "MUST-USE-THIS-ONE" look for Au Ra and I can't seem to get the combo I want without being able to change the horns!

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

The Scale options are tied to the face. None of the scale options have anything to do with the horns either except weither or not there are "Clasps" on the horns. They could rearange that so that the Horn Clasps would now be in the Horn Options so that when you pick your horn choice it can then say "ok do you want clasps now"?

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Technically it wouldn't even need to be moved into a subsection with horns, it could just stay in facial options as "click here for clasps on whatever horn you chose."

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Originally Posted by KaijinRhada

Technically it wouldn't even need to be moved into a subsection with horns, it could just stay in facial options as "click here for clasps on whatever horn you chose."

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True. Check Clasps on and game checks to see which horn you have and adds it. Didn't think of that lol.

Has anyone mentioned this yet? Yugiri seems to be face 3 (bottom left) but her horns are horns from face 1. She's kinda similar to Moenbryda (someone pointed out her mixed roe features) in that respect. This can only mean one thing.

Yugiri is going to die in HW.

Posting to add my support to this idea. The horns being locked to a face is rather restrictive and considering SE is heralding Au Ra as being the race with the most customization, this should be a no brainer.

I have +1'd this <3

+1 on this. I want face 1 with horns from face 3 for my Au Ra. I'm now forced to use face 3.

I don't care either way. They're way too anime for me as is ><

+1

Please make the horn and face options separate.

Adding my support. This is something I'd really like to see, if possible.

Yes! All the likes, ALL OF THEM! I feel that even though I think I did a good job on making my Au Ra with the default options (at least, Lily anyway), I feel like the creative freedom is still lost because there were some features of the other faces that I would have really liked to have, but couldn't because of the horn selection.

I'm hoping that they did it this way just because it's the benchmark, and the final product will have them separated, but one can never be too careful! So, an upvote for the hope of getting a bit of the character creation creative freedom back!

I'm going to chip in by mentioning that when the faces are linked to horns, you can tell right away who used what face. However, in other races, it is hard for me to tell who is using the same face at times. Having the horns linked to faces really takes away a lot of the identity and uniqueness that you attach to a singular character.

+1 from me too, would really love to be able to choose horn style/size for the face I like :)

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Originally Posted by MsCroc

I'm going to chip in by mentioning that when the faces are linked to horns, you can tell right away who used what face. However, in other races, it is hard for me to tell who is using the same face at times. Having the horns linked to faces really takes away a lot of the identity and uniqueness that you attach to a singular character.

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That's only because the horns stick out. Even if you look at other faces you could easily tell what each person picked such as the marking of a miqo'te. I think what people aren't realizing is that Au Ra is balanced in tune with the other races, if they added the option to customize the horns then the Au Ra would actually have more options than the other races.

In terms of unique features that aren't shared there is

Hyur/Roegadyn= Muscles, Tattoos, Tattoo Color (3)
Elezen/Lalafell=Ear Shape, Ear Size (2)
Elezen=Ear Clasp, Ear Clasp color (2)
Lalafell=Tattoos, Tattoo Color (2)
Miqo'te/Au Ra=Tail shape, Tail Length (2)
Miqo'te=Tattoo, Tattoo Color (2)
Au Ra= Limbal, Limbal Color (2)

Scaled are Facial Features just with a different name but when you look at the above adding horns as another customization option would of multiplied it's advantages to other races by quite a bit.

Cause with the above you have the following:
Hyur/Roeg have 3 unique options
Elezen/Lalfell/Miqo'te/Au Ra have 4 unique options

Hyur/Roeg have 20 total option
Rest have 21.

The way they have setup CC is to have each race with 2 unique features and for the Au Ra it's their tail and Limbal eyes. Because of this the horns do become attached to the face otherwise they are adding a lot of data into the system.

Pretty much if you add the option of "horns' then you have to add one more thing for each race.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Pretty much if you add the option of "horns' then you have to add one more thing for each race.

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Okay, make limbal rings automatic and static to all of Au Ras' eyes (kind of like they have static slitted pupils on Seekers of the Sun), and give me a Horns category instead, and put in there all the "extra horns" instead of tying them to certain hairstyles only, too. >.>

I support the separate horns request!

That is all.

+1 signed
and regarding the meme - Y U NO WRITE SE-npai notice pls??? :O

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Originally Posted by ValyrianBlood

Y U NO WRITE SE-npai notice pls??? :O

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Because I'm not cool enough to be punny. D:

+1'd this.

I just want to play a purple dinsaur.

+1 seperate horn from faces please.

+1 to make the horns and face separate options!

SIGNED
YES PLEASE!
Some of the horns on other faces look friggen amazing!

Yes, please.