Myth cap gone in 2.2 confirmed

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

I wasn't aware that Coil started in T4 and T5. Being Raid Ready means being able to have enough gear to do the beginning instances of of the Raid when its Multi-tiered. T1->70+, T2->75+, T4->80+, T5->85+ would be optimum, but still could be done with less (since you know first people to clear did do with less..)

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This guy know what's up

It's illogical for raid ready tome to be on lockout so of course Myth lockout need to be removed. And for us the end game guys we got new raid and end game tome dungeon.

BTW Yoshi-P said it will be the hardest 4 man content so you can't expect fresh 50 to simply grind the new tome.

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Originally Posted by Mordred

This guy know what's up

It's illogical for raid ready tome to be on lockout so of course Myth lockout need to be removed. And for us the end game guys we got new raid and end game tome dungeon.

BTW Yoshi-P said it will be the hardest 4 man content so you can't expect fresh 50 to simply grind the new tome.

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It still wont be hard. Nothing in any MMO is ever really hard they cant because people will get frustrated and quit and what MMO wants players to quit and stop paying there X per month... Casual gamers matter way more then "Hard Core" players because well there are a lot more them then the other group. It always funny this same thing happens in sports you are not a "True Fan" unless your there watching your team get slaughtered and only want to see them when they are ontop. Yet team owners agree that's why they skyrocket the prices excluding the ones who was there for the bad times don't even give them a discount

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Originally Posted by AliceVirgin

It still wont be hard. Nothing in any MMO is ever really hard they cant because people will get frustrated and quit and what MMO wants players to quit and stop paying there X per month... Casual gamers matter way more then "Hard Core" players because well there are a lot more them then the other group. It always funny this same thing happens in sports you are not a "True Fan" unless your there watching your team get slaughtered and only want to see them when they are ontop. Yet team owners agree that's why they skyrocket the prices excluding the ones who was there for the bad times don't even give them a discount

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IIRC most I90 people can't even do pharos properly and Yoshi-P never said it will be hard. And it takes 2-3 month before BG downed turn 5.
So yes i'm sure it will be hard if he said so

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Originally Posted by Mordred

IIRC most I90 people can't even do pharos properly and Yoshi-P never said it will be hard. And it takes 2-3 month before BG downed turn 5.
So yes i'm sure it will be hard if he said so

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That goes back to my old point this game aint about "SKILLZ" its about time that just proves it when Item level 90 people cant do something like that .

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Originally Posted by Mordred

Yoshi-P said it will be the hardest 4 man content so you can't expect fresh 50 to simply grind the new tome.

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Yeah as hard the current coil, meaning we can assume that full myth gear is required to clear T6 and maybe 7 while needing a few ilv100 pieces for t8+ like we are with the current coil. Some hard-core parties might be able to clear T8+ being under geared while the rest of us will wait for a few ilv100 pieces for T8+.
I was worried at first too till a friend said we may be able to grind some pieces from ex mog king and Ultima too which I totally forgot about... Was too focused on 4 turns and leviathan only.

Farming just ex primal took a while si maybe it isn't as bad as I thought and I'm gonna unsubscribe now till 2.2 since myth/coil is pointless at the moment

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Originally Posted by AliceVirgin

That goes back to my old point this game aint about "SKILLZ" its about time that just proves it when Item level 90 people cant do something like that .

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Well all MMO's are about Time more than skills. They're designed to take maximum amount of time while keeping you engaged over periods of weeks, months, and years so that the company can milk a profit off your subscription fee. Free to play games do the same but make the cash shop items into short cuts so that if players wish to do things faster and NOW they can just BUY their way there.

Even in "hardcore raids" in these new MMO models any group can beat their head against it until they win. The last generation of MMOs that needed "skill" died with Everquest 1, and Pre-Abyssea Final Fantasy XI.

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Originally Posted by AliceVirgin

That goes back to my old point this game aint about "SKILLZ" its about time that just proves it when Item level 90 people cant do something like that .

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mmm now i'm not sure what you mean by skill. You get more skillful by bashing your head on the dungeon trying. And for the one that just wait for world 1st video they gain skill by watching, just like student learning from textbook instead of kicking apple tree trying to understand gravity.

And if you need time to learn the dungeon it's hard no?

Tomestone. Please.

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Originally Posted by Mordred

IIRC most I90 people can't even do pharos properly and Yoshi-P never said it will be hard. And it takes 2-3 month before BG downed turn 5.
So yes i'm sure it will be hard if he said so

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True enough... And I also see i90's in T4 with dps output so low that you wonder if they're i60 tops...

Would be nice if SE could release numbers of how many 50's have cleared various parts of the current endgame...