fairly certain the restriction is on the worlds themselves not actually the players
so non legacy worlds>>legacy =yes
legacy(including new chars created on said worlds)>>non legacy=no
some official word would be needed to confirm this
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Hrrmmm, question, do our Retainers and their inventory transfer alongside us?
bumping so this thread doesnt get lost in the shuffle
Great I've been waiting for server transfers to start which are already late and now they say Legacy players can't transfer to Non-Legacy servers at start of transfers (whenever that is)...
Another thread from users complaining about something that Yoshi-P already released information for. I swear when I see you people complaining and then realize you don't take even 5 minutes to look at news coming from the dev team I suddenly realize you deserve not to know anything.
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Well that's infuriating.
I'm calling nonsense on the economic concerns. There's already lots of players with high level crafting & gathering, not to mention the RMT - and besides that I don't see a whole bunch of legacy people suddenly up and leaving the legacy worlds given what a nightmare the DF can be at higher levels.
So why punish folks like myself who have multiple real-life friends on the game but on the newer servers because of the new character restrictions by preventing me from joining them? I'm not starting a brand new character and going through the entire story for the 5th freaking time (counting each beta) and re-leveling everything when I could be working on my legacy character just so we can hang out. They get that, but we're all very frustrated over this.
There's no excuse for SE not to allow anyone to transfer to any world they want. You cap the gil that can be transferred and you bind all gear during transfer to the player (gear that is binded can't be sold on the AH). This is a perfect solution. If the player doesn't want to lose his/her gil, he or she can create a mule on the world they are leaving and keep the gil there.
I do not pretend to know all about economy management concerns about legacy worlds. I take that. But it's a sick thing that I have to be "limited" by being in a Legacy World. I don't say that it doesn't make sense to have that rule in place but as a paying costumer I want to have the same chances everyone have.
Now I'm lucky I only paid for the first 30 days because I'm seriously considering to freeze my account, not to protest or hoping to achieve something but simply because I'm not enjoying the server I'm playing on.
Since Legacy worlds are over crowded anyways, wouldn't it be beneficial to create one additional "legacy" world to banish us on? You know, like prison over crowding, send some to a lesser filled prison until legacy players are allowed back in the general public? This really makes no sense for legacy players to not be able to move off world.
They better make more legacy servers!!!!! cause there all the same so what benefit are we getting after years of service. How about lock us in a shitty ass world full of WOW players who finally found another game easy enough for them. I have to have 6 friends transfer to me and lose their friends because I... 1 character cannot transfer to them. Shameful... SE I would have started a character with my friends at the beginning had I known. The game is only decent to begin with that's why I wanted my friends with me.
P.S. you all ?!*#!?* suck and I am the greatest!
They better make more legacy servers!!!!! cause there all the same so what benefit are we getting after years of service. How about lock us in a shitty ass world full of WOW players who finally found another game easy enough for them. I have to have 6 friends transfer to me and lose their friends because I... 1 character cannot transfer to them. Shameful... SE I would have started a character with my friends at the beginning had I known. The game is only decent to begin with that's why I wanted my friends with me.
P.S. you all ?!*#!?* suck and I am the greatest!
There are a lot of people that are complaining about "legacy" not being allowed to transfer yet. Legacy characters can affect the world in many ways. There are quite a few 1.0 characters that are maxed with all classes and have a lot of materials on them. Which some could and would use this to their advantage by controlling markets. Which in turn would influence the natural progression of the economy of a non legacy server. I believe as soon as they feel this to be a non issue they will allow legacy to move where they please.
This is ridiculous, they screwed Legacy players again. I have 6 friends playing on Faery and I cant join them because of some stupid economic reasoning that I've never heard of in any MMO ( not going to try to even start ). I will try to ask my friends to transfer to Hyperion, but they already have their other friends playing in Faery, meaning they would have to transfer too. And even if they all somehow agree to transfer, who the heck wants to transfer to a server that is as PACKED as hyperion!? Are the admins even reading these forums? Im not starting over, SE. I have a full time job and a life outside of FF. If you ask me, they are definitely doing a good job pissing legacy players off. Luckily I only paid for 30 days.
Yeah, I don't really buy the dead horse excuse of 'bad for the economy' when they clearly stated that transferable gil is capped and materials don't mean much when you still have to sell them/craft them in order to make the gil back and, from my experiences, people just love to undercut the next person into a downward spiral where you'd make more selling to an NPC than the market boards. The real reason people have been foaming at the mouth on disallowing Legacy transfers is far more insidious and selfish, they don't want to see what they can't have because they can't have it.
The Legacy servers have been the most overcrowded since launch because all the returning players had no choice but to start there and all manner of new players created characters on them to try and benefit from the experience. While Square has done an admirable job of increasing server population limits I'm still being put in a queue 9 times out of 10, with that queue hitting up to 30 in peak hours. We need the transfers every bit as much as everyone else.
No transfers off legacy worlds. What dya know stupidity does cease to amaze me....
Nice! can't wait
Why the hell won't this be available?Quote:
In the future, we will look at economic conditions on new Worlds and plan on making it possible to transfer from Legacy Worlds to new Worlds; however, this option will not be available at the start of the World Transfer Service. We appreciate your understanding.
I am stuck on a legacy server by myself without my IRL frields because of your inability to even remotely predict the demand for your game. I finally talked them into joining a legacy server which they did not want to only to find Hyperion locked out the ENTIRE FIRST WEEK. Not to mention my legacy character at the time was a lvl 5 marauder with like 500 gil to its name. So why can't you make exceptions to transfer off? How long do I have to wait?
This is a serious issue as soon I will be in endgame and need a FC to do content. I don't want to start working up points in the FC only for this option to open up and allow me to FINALLY join my friends server.
i was under the impression when they first were talking about the game and everything that people on legacy servers wouldnt be able to transfer their characters until the game was 6 months old, why is everyone complaining when they originally put that out there?
It's not so much that as much as that's when it was believed that server transfers would be available, they gave no impression that it'd be sooner. Well, it's sooner and we're wondering why they are still listening to the naysayers. Especially with how players have raced through content like they have.
Wonderful, I'm stuck forever on a legacy server I don't want to be on and know nobody while all my friends have fun together on Lamia.
I COMPLETELY agree with this! A friend of mine (and her boyfriend) got myself and two others into the game. Since we could not join their high pop legacy server, we joined our own as we were promised server transfers in the near future. My friend and her boyfriend are on Hyperion (a HIGH pop server). Her plans were to transfer to our server so we could play together ('we' meaning the 5 friends who all want to play together). So you're saying that we still CANNOT play with one another?
I really hope you address this. The 5 of us are NOT happy.
hey i'm not the one putting this limitations, I was just offering him a solution with the current situation. You don't have to be a **** just because you are on the internet you know?
are they really his friends and would they not go through with the server transfer to play with him? If they are, then problem solved; if not, then continue playing separately because I really don't give a rat's *** what you do or don't.
+1 The only reason why I'm on Ridill is because all the NA servers were down when I started playing the game, and Ridill was the ONLY server that was accepting new characters
It surely can't be that hard to differentiate new players from 1.0 players right? Just set it so that any characters made prior to ARR full release will be unable to transfer and problem solved; no legacy players will be able to transfer and new players will still be happy.
My girlfriend and I ended up rolling characters on Balmung early on due to it being the only option available to create characters on. We started progressing in hopes that soon we'd be able to transfer to Gilgamesh with our friends and our guild. A couple of our other friends were thrown to Sargantanas for the same reason, despite wanting to be on the same server.
None of us are legacy players. My account has legacy status, but I created an entirely new character because I wanted to enjoy the experience with friends in hopes that despite the rocky release we'd be able to all transfer to a server together.
To learn that server transfers are being released soon, yet we won't be able to use them to our benefit is incredibly disheartening. None of my friends on Legacy servers chose nor wanted to play on Legacy servers, and yet we're stuck here until further notice. This is extremely disappointing, SE.
I agree the tone of her previous statement was uncalled for, but she's right anyway. Asking for all your friends to transfer (especially if they're happy on the current server), when the limitations shouldn't be there in the first place just seems unreasonable.
One of the options not listed, in regards to why we picked a server is that we were filtered to certain servers during the cluster F that was the launch. People just want to get off of the Legacy servers that we were filtered into during beta and initial release.
Don't care what kind of limitations are put in place. Strip them naked, limit gil and items. Don't care. Items and gil can be regained, progress lost can not be regained. When I chose a server after release, it wasn't because I was all moist about the Famfrit server. I chose it because at the time, it was the only option as everything else was locked. I have people stuck on Hyperion who just want to get off of that server.
Please reconsider not allowing people from a legacy server to transfer to a new server. If there should be any limitation on that at all it should be for legacy players on legacy servers to new servers. As has been pointed out numerous times, people rolled on legacy servers because they were just looking for a place to play, waiting for the "mid-September" transfer so they could start playing with their friends finally. Now they can't?
As far as i'm concerned, you might as well as delete every character from every server, because now i can't play with my friends, THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT THE GAME, for who knows how many months?
So since I'm not allowed to move to a new server, I will be bringing 8 friends to Hyperion.
Which SE doesn't want to happen.
Legacy members have friends too, SE!!!!!
Right but when you have 10-12 friends you asked to play this game, joining some other server (Adamantoise for my example which is NA Non-Legacy) because character creation was locked down for a good deal of time on pretty much every other server, especially Excalibur, it seems silly to ask 10-12 to transfer to 1 rather than the 1 go to the 10-12. The 10-12 people may have created their FC, LS and got to know their community as a whole and then telling 10-12 people they have to transfer to me because I'm on Excalibur NA Legacy rather than having just me transfer over there is not a real solution.
I work as a data conversion programmer; I convert, transform and bulk transfer data daily. It boggles my mind that it is this difficult for them to pull a character record and anything the foreign key constraint for the character guid might touch from one db to another, legacy or not, or whatever way they're linking data together.