Will Warriors ever get any LOVE?

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Originally Posted by Onisake

Why would you get rid of Steel Cyclone and not Holmgang?

Warrior does need major Quality of Life adjustments.

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I love holmgang up untill the point where they made all the important fights immune to it.

The idea that you can lock the boss into facing a direction that prevents him from attacking you is a great skill. In the right hands it become pure avoidance, and in the wrong hands it literally can become suicide.

It still has potential...

I agree with vmage here. I'm not tanking Coils yet but I've run AK and Chimera a bunch with my FC and we're not seeing a big problem with war tank vs pld.

Generally we use my WAR for MT because emnity is so good with the big HP pool it's really easy to heal though burst dmg. Sometimes we use it for OT if there are a lot of adds becuase it seems to be easier to keep loads of adds on you as a war than pld.

As for people's concern about dropping the defiance buff to use unleashed or Inner beast. It's all down to rotation. If you burn your rage at the right time you can almost instantly be back to 2 stacks and be back at 5 in 5 global cooldowns.

Lastly foresight really is a bad ability. I find acter parsing and feedback from my FC's healers that I use the dodge disc from pugilist more than foresight which is a bad sign. A parry disc would be far better and arguably better tied in with the lore of the class.

A lot of you are saying WAR is fine. Wait until you get to Titan HM, when no one wants you to tank or dps, because you can't do either in that fight.

last i looked into it foresight was less than 10% mitigation, meaning less than half of a rampart :s

and less than a quarter of a sentinel

still, innerbeast is a much lower cooldown than anything paladin has

a well timed stoneskin (immediately after landslide) + inner beast is enough to completely mitigate titan's mountain busters, which is pretty much the most damage a warrior will take pre coil

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Originally Posted by HamHam

A lot of you are saying WAR is fine. Wait until you get to Titan HM, when no one wants you to tank or dps, because you can't do either in that fight.

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yeah, wars probably have it the toughest getting their relic

requires better healers than paladins do by far

I will post my answer here from another thread cause its the same matter:

So just stop complaining or L2P or whatever, its getting me sick of those "the class needs buff" threads popping up..after a month and when most of u aren´t even at endgame and just assume stuff.

Warrior gets more HP and SELF HEAL and some CDs even if hes taking "bigger" hits, its nearly the same for healers overall.
Warrior has no silence, yes thats the only rly weak spot but again as i said getting more dmg out on bosses is a real +++ in that case.
Warrior do just fine in Coils (if u got DL anyways)

SPOILER: Turn4 kill with a warrior in the group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nukLMcgfc8U /SPOILER

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Our Warrior is MAINTANKING Turn1 the first Boss till its splitting
Our Warrior is MAINTANKING Turn2 the 2nd Boss - (u need to switch from time to time though debuff)
Our Warrior is MAINTANKING adds on Turn4 (i take only one soldier/knight + dread)
Turn5 does also OK and again - more DMG which u need.
/SPOILER

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Our Warrior is MAINTANKING Turn1 the first Boss till its splitting

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And after it splits? this isn't main tanking it's co-tanking. there is a diffrence.

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Our Warrior is MAINTANKING Turn2 the 2nd Boss - (u need to switch from time to time though debuff)

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again, co-tanking

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Our Warrior is MAINTANKING adds on Turn4 (i take only one soldier/knight + dread)

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Last i checked, you don't maintank adds. you off tank adds.

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Turn5 does also OK and again - more DMG which u need.

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k.

Convalescence is a great tool to have on your bar whether 5 stacks of wrath are up or not. I've not had any issues with aggro or surviving and my healers (when asked) said they had no issues keeping me alive.

Manage your buffs instead of pumping them all out at the same time, however I do agree that bloodbath could use a boost in absorption. then again Storm's Path could use some work too. Absorbing 50% of damage from that skill sounds great but is very lackluster when it only heals maybe 100-200 health, definitely almost not worth even being there.

Inner beast at 5 stacks is fine with me, you can always use Infuriate to pop off another Inner Beast if you really need it, only a 60 second cooldown too.

Warrior is fine in the 4 man stuff but in coil warrior routinely dies when paladin has little issue staying alive.

There are a number of mechanics that 1 shot warriors due to their poor mitigation. Our warrior got so sick of getting 1 shot and causing wipes he rerolled paladin and has had no issue since.

ITT: A lot of WAR try hards being carried by their FCs thinking they're a boon when they're not.

I love the Warrior but the OP is right. Im a lv50 healer and i notice how much more damage the warr takes. Anyone whos done Titan knows if you have a warr tank you better bring a 3rd healer.. I don't know how they can fix them but they need better mitigation. Maybe turn those heals into half heals half bubbles? IDK. I hope and think they will tweak them somehow, it is a MMO after all. I'm almost ready to level a second class/job and was looking at the warrior but at the moment i know as a healer i much rather would have a glad. :(