Amdapor Keep and Wanderer's Palace Adjustments

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Originally Posted by Kyp

This will not stop speed running so long as mobs reset to thier starting posistions

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If every player has a percentage of hate on every mob once aggroed (even if its 0.001% or w/e example), how would it not? Everyone would wipe since everyone would be eventually targeted. The only way I could see it be circumvented is if everyone but one dies, that one kites for an ungodly amount of time elsewhere while the rest move forward. Though, that leaves the one screwed out of the run since if they respawn, get hate again, it would add the low aggro to everyone once again.

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Originally Posted by Lovescake

Youre not grasping it are you..

she means the fact that it'll simply detect whos the next aggro target and kill them, without returning to their starting position until all targets are eliminated.

+ Allagancoins from chests.. you mean the chests you could speed run right?

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Seems like you're the one who doesn't get it.

Tank sacpulls like normal and everyone follows suit. When they get to the end the healer pops swiftcast + raise on the tank as soon as he dies, and the mobs kill everyone in the party. Tank hits accept, raises the healer, and bam you're back to speed running except for the added minute or two of resurrecting the whole party.

They put up the wall at the entrance to the boss room. Can't enter the boss room til you kill the mobs I'm assuming

http://i.imgur.com/73AYcgY.jpg

I'M SO SORRY FOR THE F BOMB!

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Originally Posted by Lovescake

Youre not grasping it are you..

she means the fact that it'll simply detect whos the next aggro target and kill them, without returning to their starting position until all targets are eliminated.

+ Allagancoins from chests.. you mean the chests you could speed run right?

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If it's just that his strategy would work:

- Tank goes to safe spot
- Tank dies and mobs turn to kill healer
- Healer casts Swiftcast + Raise on tank
- Everyone dies
- Mobs go back to their place since there is no aggro target to kill now
- Tank accepts Raise
- Tank starts raising everyone

This would work with PLDs at least.

The swiftcast thing could work. And really, it's just what we needed, more people demanding specific jobs or refusing to run content. No PLD or SMN? WHM doesn't have swiftcast? Drop group.

This could of so easily been solved by making trash actually rewarding to clear.

thanks square-enix you know exactly how to "fix" things.

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Originally Posted by madolyn

smh. all the cry babies got what they want.

speed running was time consuming as it was taking about 18 hours of runs to fully gear. Amdapor Keep is a very long dungeon filled with unnecessary and unrewarding trash mobs that drop nothing and takes at least an hour to complete. People can't be serious with the "I want to play the game as it was intended not speed run *snicker*" argument....there is ZERO reward for killing trash mob. I play progression games to make progression....not waste my time on unrewarding tasks.

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While I think trash mobs should drop parts, gil and a chance of gear....the "progression" game argument is just thinly veiled e-peen talk. It's an MMO, killing trash in instances is usually part and parcel OF the progression. Honestly, if you don't like it....why play MMO's in the first place?

this argument is mute since someone just posted a screenshot of a wall at boss room. That is what they did. but i do agree, killing the trash mobs in those dungeons is pointless. the only reason ppl do these two dungeons was for the quick tombs instead of spamming the garlean dungeons that took forever. besides, as it is, the cost for just a chest piece for darklight is 1200 philosophy tombs. does SE really expect us to take just as long in Wanderer's Palace as in the Garlean dungeons for a measley 60 phylosophy when they could get 100 from the garlean dungeons?

http://i.imgur.com/9qR8NU6.jpg

The wall blocks you til you kill the three followers sitting at the wall.

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

http://i.imgur.com/9qR8NU6.jpg

The wall blocks you til you kill the three followers sitting at the wall.

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is this the "only" road block or have they implemented others?

seems like a real poor way of confronting the problem with their dungeons. instead of fixing what is wrong they just implement a road block.