Early Access and NDA for video live broadcast

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Originally Posted by Xikeroth

Before you are allowed to play the game there is a user agreement you have to agree to Rex. if you don't, you can't play.

As for what others say.... I can understand not allowing some streaming since it would spoil any story that may or may not happen for people who have yet to play the game. Final Fantasy is story driven and to spoil that for people who have yet to play is something I just won't do. I'd love to make some videos online for it but as I said I will wait for Official release.

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Yes, but where in that agreement does it say we cant release video/audio during Early Access?

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Originally Posted by Rjain

While SE could do a better job at displaying their rules that they have such a strong penalty on, there will always be people who break the rules without paying attention and doing their research.

If I'm driving down a street at 80 km/h and the speed limit is 60 km/h, but the sign was behind a tree and I happened to miss it, that does not give me an excuse to tell the officer upon receiving a ticket. It is my fault I didn't see the sign, regardless of how misplaced that sign was.

SE could have the rules displayed on every single page, including the user agreement, and people will still miss them and continue to stream. That is their risk and their problem if they are punished for it.

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Except this rule seems to not be posted anywhere. Some claim its on the beta forums, but those dont even exist anymore, and a statement from a community rep does not seem legally binding.

Here is the link to the full terms and agreement for ffxiv arr that everyone is accepting when they start up the game. In here you can go to FINAL FANTASY® XIV: A Realm Reborn™ Materials Usage License and tells you that you can't do video. Just because the date it was posted is old does not mean that it is not what you are accepting. It will change later on I am sure, most likely the 27th.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&la=1

Most people did not read that you have to go to support to see the full terms you are agreeing too.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

Except this rule seems to not be posted anywhere. Some claim its on the beta forums, but those dont even exist anymore, and a statement from a community rep does not seem legally binding.

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What is legally binding is that in the user agreement, SE can do whatever they want with your characters and your account as they own them entirely. They can ban you for little to no reason. Other MMOs also have this legal clause. If a SE rep posts that you cannot stream, and you go against their wish and get banned, SE has legal right to ban you. They can ban you if they see you stream and see you wearing a pink polka dot shirt on webcam if they want to.

Not trying to play brave white knight here, but being realistic. I do agree they need to be more clear about these issues.

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Originally Posted by Nakashima

Here is the link to the full terms and agreement for ffxiv arr that everyone is accepting when they start up the game. In here you can go to FINAL FANTASY® XIV: A Realm Reborn™ Materials Usage License and tells you that you can't do video. Just because the date it was posted is old does not mean that it is not what you are accepting. It will change later on I am sure, most likely the 27th.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&la=1

Most people did not read that you have to go to support to see the full terms you are agreeing too.

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Interesting point. Hmmm

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Originally Posted by Rjain

What is legally binding is that in the user agreement, SE can do whatever they want with your characters and your account as they own them entirely. They can ban you for little to no reason. Other MMOs also have this legal clause. If a SE rep posts that you cannot stream, and you go against their wish and get banned, SE has legal right to ban you. They can ban you if they see you stream and see you wearing a pink polka dot shirt on webcam if they want to.

Not trying to play brave white knight here, but being realistic. I do agree they need to be more clear about these issues.

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You're absolutely right, but it would be pretty crappy of SE to ban your account for violating a 'rule' that isnt even in their User Agreement that you agreed to.

Regardless of what you think you agreed to, SE clearly states no copyright ownership is included with the game (Please see bold and underlined section that is in all caps.) This means that you get to do precisely what they tell you you can do with the content (which includes audio/visual). Unless it happens to fall under an an exception to copyright law ( Fair Use Act etc.). This is just copyright though, they may have covered that loophole elsewhere.

Am I agreeing with their choice? I honestly don't care. I'm playing the game not watching it.

I would rather see that people who visit this thread can make an informed decision on whether or not to ignore SE about not streaming during EA. If you want to know possible consequences they are listed in there too (Section 3).

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Now quit debating boring stuff and go find a good gif for the reaction thread to hold us over til Saturday.

So funny no streaming early access.

Actually surprised the NDA will still be in effect. I mean, early access is the final product at that point.

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Originally Posted by Lilymoon

Same NDA rules on early access as phase 3 and 4. No Video, No Audio... Also twitch banned a few people for "slideshows". People who thought they were being clever with time lapsed screenshots

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Originally Posted by Lilymoon

Actually one of my friends was enjoying watching people get banned on twitch and losing their game accounts when he got stuck with the 3102 issue during phase 4. Saw 27 accounts get hit, a few with 1.0 characters that were all warned before they got a ban

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I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your friend is probably just making stuff up. Nobody I know of got banned from Twitch, certainly not for showing FF14 screenshots. Guys who showed screenshots like Kripparrian, Towelliee, and CriticalChocolate are all still streaming right now as I type this. In fact go to CriticalChocolate's stream right now, he's showing nothing but a non stop FF14 screenshot slideshow right at this moment.

Whenever people get banned from Twitch, it makes gaming news. If 27 streamers got banned all at once, everybody and their brother would be talking about it on Twitch and several other forms of gaming media. Nothing like that has ever happened before and it would be huge news in the streaming community. Can you actually name any of these streamers who were supposedly banned? I don't even think there was a total of 27 people showing FF14 content on Twitch.

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Originally Posted by Akava

Actually surprised the NDA will still be in effect. I mean, early access is the final product at that point.

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FFXIV wouldn't be the first MMO with an early access NDA and it won't be the last. They are worried people will spoil too much of the game before other people can play it.