Poll: Gear Tabs (Are you content with needing multiples of the same items?)

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Originally Posted by Nero

You dont understand. That is the Translation of exactly that question you are refering to. Those Translations are from the Devs, so if you are saying they are wrong, you also say that the english ones are wrong. Does that makes sense to you?

We will get International Server with the Option to use a regional Data-Center. <_< Dont tell me to derail, if you come up with servers, which has nothing to do with the question/answer you are posted in your OP.

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STOP... what the.. you are refering to Rein's Translation over the Q&A from the Dev's? I just checked also the english Q&A and what you posted in your OP is NOWHERE in those files. Could you please tell me that you really dont even read the Q&A of the Dev's?

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The Q&A Part clearly doesn't cover everything discussed in the video... It was over an hour long... There were a great many things discussed in the video, and the translation I posted was one of them. Furthermore I witnessed this being said first had during the live video feed. :/

Here are the translation notes that cover the whole thing, enjoy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pli=1&sle=true

Edit: Are you just screwing with me, or are you actually serious about this?

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Originally Posted by Mijin

The Q&A Part clearly doesn't cover everything discussed in the video... It was over an hour long... There were a great many things discussed in the video, and the translation I posted was one of them. Furthermore I witnessed this being said first had during the live video feed. :/

Here are the translation notes that cover the whole thing, enjoy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pli=1&sle=true

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OK.. so you say non-official Translation > official Translation. Obviously cant change your mind, so go ahead and trust outsider-Translations more. :)

But we/you will see soon enough when the official translated Letter will come along.

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Edit: Are you just screwing with me, or are you actually serious about this?

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I will always stick with official Answers. You are sticking to a non-official Translation, which i have my doubts in, so why shouldnt i be serious? Nothing wrong to wait/stick with official statements over non-SE ones.

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Originally Posted by Nero

OK.. so you say non-official Translation > official Translation. Obviously cant change your mind, so go ahead and trust outsider-Translations more. :)

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What's wrong with you? I didn't say non-official translation > official translation. The only "official" translation is of the questions and answers part of the video. They didn't translate the whole thing, and the part that I've referenced in this thread wasn't one of the Q&A. It was however clearly discussed for the world to see by Yoshida and Foxclon... Do you honestly believe an hour plus long interview can be condensed into a few paragraphs?

Can't you just bow out gracefully, and admit being wrong instead of taking my words out of context for the sake of argument?

It is a odd change indeed. Hopefully we can co-erce them out of it in Alpha/Beta testing.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

http://mijin.org/wp-content/uploads/...9/hihihaa2.png

(As a personal side-note I sure hope we will get enough tabs for every Job/Class. They said additional tabs will be made available through quests. If implemented correctly this will be an amazing feature.)

TL;DR VOTE HERE / VIEW RESULTS HERE

Since there seem to be some people questioning the authenticity of this here's the direct quote taken from the live letter:

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So they want to compensate the abolishment of macros with... this?? (makes sense) >.>

(No thank you) ノー SE. Your reforms are flawed! Your designs are flawed! You're ideas are flawed! 瑕疵 ! I'd apreaciate it if I can keep my macro sets and action bar where it is, (Thank you!)

スクウェア·エニックス、ありがとうございましたがありません！

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Originally Posted by Mijin

What's wrong with you? I didn't say non-official translation > official translation.

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You do by saying that "outsider"-Translation is a fact.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

The only "official" translation is of the questions and answers part of the video. They didn't translate the whole thing, and the part that I've referenced in this thread wasn't one of the Q&A. It was however clearly discussed for the world to see by Yoshida and Foxclon... Do you honestly believe an hour plus long interview can be condensed into a few paragraphs?

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They translated the asked Question. They didnt translate it as a whole, but this will come within the next few days. Which will have the whole Session translated. Do you think the Dev's would leave out an important Part like that? And actually the Paragraph you are refering to is Question 23 and as you can see, it is totally different to your "Outsider"-Translation.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

Can't you just bow out gracefully, and admit being wrong instead of taking my words out of context for the sake of argument?

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Being wrong in what? Show me the official source of what you posted in your OP. If it will be the exact way in the translated Video, like you wrote it above then i would admit being wrong. But everything you do right now is wild speculation about a non-official translation.

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Originally Posted by Nero

But everything you do right now is wild speculation about a non-official translation.

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It's pretty rare the Rein ends up mis-translating something...just saying.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

It's pretty rare the Rein ends up mis-translating something...just saying.

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I like Rein's Translations and always check them out, but im not sticking by it until it is confirmed by an official Statement. Thats my point.

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Originally Posted by Nero

I like Rein's Translations and always check them out, but im not sticking by it until it is confirmed by an official Statement. Thats my point.

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Considering we don't even see all the news released from JP dev posts I don't see the issue in drawing conclusions (That can change obviously if proven incorrect by the dev team or community reps) from a fan-translation.

We shouldn't just sit idle and pretend that it didn't happen until the community reps say it. They have every opportunity to waltz in and say that it's wrong and here is the proper translation hell even the community reps have made Translation Fopas as often as Rein has.

Just because a community rep said it doesn't mean it's a proper translation all the time either.

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Originally Posted by Nero

You do by saying that "outsider"-Translation is a fact.

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No, I said the Q&A translations posted don't cover this part. But it is true that the translation done is accurate, like I said I watched the live feed myself.

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Originally Posted by Nero

They translated the asked Question. They didnt translate it as a whole, but this will come within the next few days. Which will have the whole Session translated. Do you think the Dev's would leave out an important Part like that? And actually the Paragraph you are refering to is Question 23 and as you can see, it is totally different to your "Outsider"-Translation.

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Actually the part I'm referring to is only partially in question 23, they went on to discuss the rest after. And since the first part matches up, that kind of throws your argument out the window. Furthermore yes I do think the community reps would leave that part out for the time being because it doesn't directly relate to the answer of the question asked. They plan of doing a full translation later, they left out a lot of the details in the Q&A for the time being.

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Originally Posted by Nero

Being wrong in what? Show me the official source of what you posted in your OP. If it will be the exact way in the translated Video, like you wrote it above then i would admit being wrong. But everything you do right now is wild speculation about a non-official translation.

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Wild speculation? That's interesting... Imagine if every time there was a world conflict they could just blame it on the translators lol. You're the only one creating wild speculation that somehow the translation is totally wrong and words were added that weren't even said... The fact that you didn't watch the live feed, and don't speak Japanese doesn't give you the right to accuse people of being wrong, or lying when you have no evidence to back it up. It's pretty offensive.

You keep throwing around the word "official" these words came strait from Yosida's mouth himself. I don't know how much more official you can get.