Oh I don't follow any FFXIV stuff on Twitter so I'm not familiar with what happened outside of the game other than some youtube vids. I'm just talking about my in-game experience. I didn't dislike the VA for Wuk. My beef is with the writers on this expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinFreeman
With Apologies to Sena Bryer
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08-07-2024, 12:40 AMZykorberus
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08-07-2024, 12:41 AMMartinFreeman
Okay, Cerus. If you think respect isn't earned, I want you to go up to a gang member and say to their faces the most vile things you can say that only their closest family gets to say to them. I would then tell you to come back, but we but know that you'd be six feet under. So much for respect. lol
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08-07-2024, 12:42 AMReinhaI don't disbelieve that Sena is receiving threats, but why choose a message with literally none of that as an example of the supposed hate messages? Is the voice actor conflating valid criticism with transphobia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Antharaes
It's also pretty tasteless to resent someone else for getting the support they deserve and to try to make it all about yourself. -
08-07-2024, 12:44 AMPicotheaShe's not saying the problem is Imane getting the help she needs, though her wording needs work. Sena is noting Imane is experiencing transphobic attacks (without even being trans) and she'd like for trans women to get the same support when experiencing it.Quote:
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I'm tired of the aggressive posters being given grounds to misrespresent these things. Look at their track record, this doesn't justify their hatred even if we pretended Sena's posts were worse. -
08-07-2024, 12:48 AMCaptainLagbeard
Threats and doxxing is bad.
But if you can't handle people being rude, get off the fucking internet princess. -
08-07-2024, 12:50 AMEponaTBHSMHSure but the point still stands, why does she quote something that has nothing to do with transphobiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Picothea
That said death threats are awful and I believe she should get in touch with law enforcements when it comes to that, comparing her situation to olympic athlete isn't gonna do her any good -
08-07-2024, 12:53 AMPicotheaIt has everything to do with transphobia. Imane Khelif was endlessly accused of faking her gender and concealing tests of her sex. This is an example of transphobic attacks targeting a non-trans woman, and it shows the transphobia needs to end.Quote:
Originally Posted by EponaTBHSMH
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08-07-2024, 12:55 AMBakoolJaJaThey are talking about her third tweet that is absolutely dripping in resentment. "But a cute girl who's not trans gets her feelings hurt... and everyone comes rallying to her cause... Same exact shit"Quote:
Originally Posted by Picothea
Don't try to cover this up with "poor choice of words." She is doing what she often does, making EVERYTHING about herself. Only HER feelings matter. A cute girl who isn't trans (why is that relevant? That's just as irrelevant as Sena being trans is irrelevant. Something I'd hope all the anti toxicity folks in this forum would agree with, but apparently not.) doesn't deserve people to come her aid. No, no, only Sena does. Nevermind that she has a crowd of rabid supporters on twitter. She'll just ignore those, because otherwise how would she paint herself as the ultimate victim?
The wording in her tweet is everything but respectful or civil. And this is something that is constantly noticed when looking at her Twitter. That's exactly why people assume that she is starting sh*t. Because she keeps on starting conflicts with those tweets, involving people who have nothing to do with whatever issues she is facing. -
08-07-2024, 12:59 AMPicothea
When you're in a position like Sena, you can't say anything without people assuming the absolute worst about your intent. Even her disclaimers in her own tweets do nothing to dissuade someone arguing in bad faith.
On a side note, telling Sena to take the death threats to the police may be well-intentioned and all, but she's likely already doing that. Filing the appropriate reports is more important than flashing the evidence to people she doesn't know on the internet- it might even disrupt the police's efforts if she were to spread it around. Then there's the question of whether the police will even help her, international interactions being what they are. -
08-07-2024, 01:09 AMZephyrMenodora
I am not a fan of Wuk Lamat and thought her voice acting was "okay" to "awful" depending on the scene. But I don't feel the need to go to Sena's Twitter account and tell her how awful I thought her performance was and that I think she should lose that role. They aren't going to redub an entire expansion, so why the need to confront the actor to make them feel bad? The feedback should go to the decision makers of the game and the casting director for allowing this.
Death threats and threats against someone's family are never okay. Especially over a video game performance. This remains true even if they tweet annoying things that seem hypocritical.
Sena does tweet a lot of things that are questionable, and seem cis-phobic and aimed at removing jobs from cis people she doesn't think deserves them in favor of more trans actors. I think to many she is unlikeable as a person and tries to use identity and victimhood to her advantage. But as distasteful as she can come across, her life should not be threatened.
But I agree with the poster above, this should go to the police, rather than what she asked for - the "industry" to drop what they are doing and rally behind her.