Housing lottery system takes entirely too long and is poorly designed.

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Originally Posted by MakoEyes

I've been playing in Leviathan since beta.

I'll be damned I switch servers just to appease a function of this game that should be provided to all.

Stop allowing fake accounts, bot accounts, and shell-FCs from placing bids.


Don't allow bids by accounts less than one year old.

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So any new player that comes to the game shouldn't have a hope of getting a plot any times soon?

The community asked for a fair chance at getting a plot they got one.It's not the dedicated few you're competing against anymore, but the casual many that asked to be considered for. And they got exactly that.

HOUSING is provided to all who want to participate in it. So you can't say that a housing is unavailable to you.

The game doesn't grant you a PLOT. But nobody was granted one.

But keep responding on these forums like I anyone would really give a damn.

Housing has been an issue since launch of housing.

Housing became more of a nightmare since the "anticipated fix".

Housing has been nothing but a blight on this game since day one.


But let's keep pointing the blame at anyone but the one's who continue letting it be problem.



White knights everywhere. I hope Squeenix is reimbursing you, defending them so simply.

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Originally Posted by MakoEyes

Housing has been an issue since launch of housing.

Housing became more of a nightmare since the "anticipated fix".

Housing has been nothing but a blight on this game since day one.


But let's keep pointing the blame at anyone but the one's who continue letting it be problem.



White knights everywhere. I hope Squeenix is reimbursing you, defending them so simply.

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Every change housing got was a request from the players themselves...

Players asked for the demo timer

Players asked for Apts

Players asked for a lottery.

Take a few deep breaths, Mako, you're gonna get yourself banned from the forums continuing like that. After doing some digging, it looks like it's only been two lottery cycles since your llama FC reached the 30-day age requirement to enter. It's ok to lose some lotteries initially on a well-established server like yours, even when you stack the odds in your favor. Just keep at it, with 13 bids each time you will surely succeed sooner rather than later.

You also really ought to apologize to Solowing for those hurtful remarks, Mako. Shame on you for taking out your own personal frustrations on others.

The solution to shell FCs is to detach the workshop from FC houses. Make it a room at the headquarters of whatever GC the FC is associated with.

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Originally Posted by Acesfool

The solution to shell FCs is to detach the workshop from FC houses. Make it a room at the headquarters of whatever GC the FC is associated with.

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It wont make a dent in availability. You highly underestimate those who are collecting specific plots. The Subgil is just a bonus on top to fuel those desires.
Those plots wont magically abonded if your suggestion would become reality.

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Originally Posted by Yodada

It wont make a dent in availability. You highly underestimate those who are collecting specific plots. The Subgil is just a bonus on top to fuel those desires.
Those plots wont magically abonded if your suggestion would become reality.

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I agree 100% that most who have a house for their shell likely will not give it up. But it will cut down on the problem in the future.

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Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6

Take a few deep breaths, Mako, you're gonna get yourself banned from the forums continuing like that. After doing some digging, it looks like it's only been two lottery cycles since your llama FC reached the 30-day age requirement to enter. It's ok to lose some lotteries initially on a well-established server like yours, even when you stack the odds in your favor. Just keep at it, with 13 bids each time you will surely succeed sooner rather than later.

You also really ought to apologize to Solowing for those hurtful remarks, Mako. Shame on you for taking out your own personal frustrations on others.

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Its ok he can be upset. But he wasn't there for when Apts didn't exist and if you didn't have an FC/Personal plot you COULDNT do housing. The demo timer didn't exist, and Wards were just empty plots who's owners had no intention of coming back anytime soon, if at all.

We got the demo timer, and did player complain? No, why would they feel bad for somebody who quit a year ago losing their house?

But it didn't releases houses fast enough and players were still locked out of housing. In come Apartments. Hm..They are smaller but also arnt tied to the demolish timer, fair trade off.. (before BDTH and lofting became a thing 100 slots were reasonable, our standards rose with our knowledge how to exploit the system.)

Then people with not much time to play/slower reflexes/travels alot felt they didn't have a fair shot to get a plot, (especially after shirogane released, anyone who didn't take the day off or disconnected after logging in was SoL and wasn't getting a plot 15 minutes after servers went live)

So they added in a hidden timer. But emergent gameplay became to click a placard for 16 hours a day or set a bot to do it to win a plot under the hidden timer and that wasn't healthy.

So here we are at the lottery. Oh you can only login once a week? Don't worry the game will give you 10 days to bid, Dont have fast reaction times? No need! take your time getting over there to bid. Worried about a bot? Botting has no outcome on a lottery because their input wont change anything.


The housing system is MILES better then what it used to be, tough pill to swallow.

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Originally Posted by Yodada

It wont make a dent in availability. You highly underestimate those who are collecting specific plots. The Subgil is just a bonus on top to fuel those desires.
Those plots wont magically abonded if your suggestion would become reality.

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The prime plots definitely won't appear but probably about 90% of the seemingly empty small plots probably would over several months. Why keep a house that's no longer necessary when they can let the plot demo and get back 80% of the gil paid while continuing to operate the workshop.

More importantly, those adding new workshops to their farm or starting a new sub farm would no longer have reason to purchase a plot. It would reduce their start up costs by a fair chunk while any future ward and district additions wouldn't get swamped by the sub farms that have set up new FCs in anticipation.