Some MMO we have

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Originally Posted by Alleluia

.... Who on earth is using party finder to get through Haukke Manor normal? XD That isn't a thing. There's no way.

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And yet there they are. My guess is it was a DPS that wasn't finding people to do it with in DF. I left the little flower so people wouldn't think it was me doing the posting since it wouldn't have the cross-server symbol. Believe what you want all I can tell you is I didn't make this up.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

THIS 100%

It also proves just how efficient this game's duty finder is for most of the content. Obviously not always the case but if you notice, a lot of PF groups have very specific goals and attachments for wanting to form the group.

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Yeah I've only ever heard of PF being used for statics, farms, and RP announcements. And there is waaaay more in the game than just that stuff.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Anything to keep player engagement levels up.
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Do you see where I'm coming from?
The content that we used to get was long lasting content, that even to this day is still active.
The content we are getting now stagnates within a single patch and is not even remotely worth the time investment.

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A good first attempt at a response.

If you're suggesting that you like Eureka and would like to see more done exactly like it, what, in particular, keeps you going back week after week, five years after its release?

Wasn't it specifically geared towards the Stormblood Relic Weapon grind? It doesn't seem like something that many players would actively seek after the release of the next expansion, but then again, there are plenty of people working through Hunt Trains to this day.

What you've described isn't particularly long-lasting content, to my mind. It's content that specifically interests you. And that's fine. It's just that interest in similar content in Shadowbringers appears to have died out after the release of Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

And yet there they are. My guess is it was a DPS that wasn't finding people to do it with in DF. I left the little flower so people wouldn't think it was me doing the posting since it wouldn't have the cross-server symbol. Believe what you want all I can tell you is I didn't make this up.

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It's not so much that I think you are making it up, I just am surprised that player is doing it. You are almost certainly going to get a group for a normal level 20-something dungeon via pugging in DF way faster than you will using PF, even if DF's queue is long. Going on party finder for normal ARR dungeons is just so odd.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

THIS 100%

It also proves just how efficient this game's duty finder is for most of the content. Obviously not always the case but if you notice, a lot of PF groups have very specific goals and attachments for wanting to form the group.

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The DF isn't the issue. Everyone quit or is using trusts. That PF posting has the very specific goal of wanting company in an MMO, something hard to do when there isn't content to keep players engaged and when the game just pushes you to do the content with bots instead of people.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The DF isn't the issue. Everyone quit or is using trusts. That PF posting has the very specific goal of wanting company in an MMO, something hard to do when there isn't content to keep players engaged and when the game just pushes you to do the content with bots instead of people.

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"everyone quit"? That seems hyperbolic. Does DF not produce parties on Excalibur or something?

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Originally Posted by Ath192

The DF isn't the issue. Everyone quit or is using trusts. That PF posting has the very specific goal of wanting company in an MMO, something hard to do when there isn't content to keep players engaged and when the game just pushes you to do the content with bots instead of people.

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Trust me, you DONT have to use PF to get a player group to run an msq dungeon. I play alts in this game, and I have one currently in base ARR and for the last few weeks Ive been using DF just as always to get some people to do the dungeons with no problem at all.

The person probably was caught doing it at a bad hour or didnt think to use DF to forming a group because they believed that nobody would be running it because of trusts...which is absolutely stupid because the dungeon is part of the roulette pool so it'll always have people running it anyway.

Just took a peep at primal, as of this minute 1 dungeon, 6 trials, 5 raids,16 high-end,1 FATE,1 field op and 50 other, yup totally "dead" :p

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

The person probably was caught doing it at a bad hour or didnt think to use DF to forming a group because they believed that nobody would be running it because of trusts...

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I mean, if Saturday afternoon is a bad hour we got problems....

Meanwhile, on Dynamis.


JFC we have 1 raid up and 15 "other"


Breaking news: We just got one more in the raid tab, what a time to be alive.