Elitist Housing Must Go. Every Single Player Should Have A House.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Happy

O I didn't think of transferring to a new data center just to be able to buy a house. You are a genius!! Problem instantly solved!!

Ok for real though... The point I am trying to make is that every player should have the ability to purchase a house not just a select few.

I would have to quit my FC and basically quit all my friends on my DC and start over fresh on a new DC just to buy a house???

My friends can't teleport to my house since I am on a different DC now and DC travel can take around 30 mins from what I have read. Once you get there you can't really do much either so there is not much point in traveling over either...

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Do I have to define what an alt is? FFS. This OF, SMH.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

We did go a few years without new housing wards, and it was partly affected by COVID. But we've had three ward increases roughly 6 months or so apart now over the past year or so.

With the number of houses available now, we're actually almost there. Nearly everyone who wants a house could have a house. The problem is the uneven distribution of players. Overpopulated worlds are too full, while underpopulated worlds have entire wards virtually empty. People need to move to where there's more space. I know that's easier said than done if players already have ties to friends, statics and FC's, but usually those things aren't as serious relationships as players seem to think.

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Thank you for the info, there may be hope yet lol. Maybe they will add houses to islands still who knows.

You def make a good point I just don't want to have to leave my FC just to have a house. DC travel with no retainers doesn't sounds like much fun either.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I'd have to agree.

I mean, is the issue that some are being really selective about specific plots? If so, I don't really understand that since, prior to new wards being added, you just had to throw bids at whatever plot happened to become available.

I'll admit that I was lucky enough to get a (small) house exactly where I wanted one. Granted it's in (what discussion here indicates) is a less desirable location (The Goblet), but fact is I was the only person who bid on it.
And of the three plots nearest my house one (a large plot) was claimed and the remaining two appear to have attracted no interest.

Feel like I'm missing something here. Is the issue that these people that don't have a house will only bid for Medium or Large plots? Surely if someone is that desperate for a house they'd look for, and bid on, a small plot with zero bids against it?

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Part of the problem is exactly this. Everyone wants the plum plot. So they face significant competition and when they lose its over a week before they know whats next and each time their odds are getting worse as the pool shrinks and so the competition for the same spot increases.

My personal is a small - I grabbed whatever I saw and was lucky to win the click. I been trying to move to a med but no luck yet; but I will just keep trying.
I have FC mates that keep losing on smalls and really seem to just want a house.

It would be nice if the lotto system just allowed you to check "I do not care about the plot put me in for the best odds" and then let players walk away. Right now bid sniping highly favors those with lots of free time; especially with the FC/privates now competing for the same plots. a FC waits till the last hour and then nukes the lowest bidding plot.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Happy

You def make a good point I just don't want to have to leave my FC just to have a house. DC travel with no retainers doesn't sounds like much fun either.

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Unfortunately, the ward system and SE's need to balance out world populations don't leave players without houses much choice.

DC travel has turned out to be better than I expected when necessary. If your FC and your friends use Discord, that's an easy to keep in touch even when not on the same data center (or online at all for that matter). Leveling queues on Dynamis aren't bad. It's the level 90 content where you're generally going to run into problems if you don't have a group on Dynamis to run with. Since I'm not going to be crafting when I DC travel, lack of retainer access isn't a problem as long as I plan out my inventory before traveling.

And if your FC isn't going to treat you like a normal member of the FC just because you changed worlds to get a house, is it worth being in that FC in the first place? A FC is supposed to be a social circle, not a marriage commitment. Friends don't stop being friends just because someone moves to a neighboring town.

Certainly there are going to be exceptions on why someone stays to be with their FC (maybe they're running a venue so you need to be part of the FC for access to certain housing functions) but it shouldn't hold back the typical player if a house is something they really want.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Happy

Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played all the big titles and many smaller ones as well.

You need to fix the housing system in this game. Constantly running full wards is a massive drain on system resources. The majority of resources for instanced houses are not being used if no players are there. Please leave the past behind and come to the present/future of gaming which is instanced gaming.

SE flames any elitist behavior in their game but then goes on to make an elitist housing market where only a handful of players are able to own a house.

I know you like to have wards and neighborhoods which you can still keep for the elitist players.

BUT you NEED to add some instanced housing options for the rest of the players.

ALL players should be able to have a property to build on and decorate as they see fit. This is a MAJOR issue in an MMO to limit a persons artistic expression.

Housing and glams is the real endgame and the carrot on the stick for many players to keep playing the game...

I lost my housing bid and do not see another opportunity anytime in the future to be able to purchase a house since I am told you rarely ever add houses to the game.

I do not see myself playing this game for very long with no house and no carrot on the stick to motivate me to keep playing this game.

The housing system in FF14 is already very very basic and simple. ESO had the best housing system. Even Lost Ark's mobile style housing system was superior the one SE is using.

The best thing to do moving forward is to convert all wards to FC only and allow each player to purchase an instanced small med or large depending on their budget.

Fc's are taking advantage of the market by gaming the system anyways hurting individual players experience. Allow the FC's to battle over the wards since it's unfair anyways.

EVERY player should have a house not just a handful of elite players.

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Theres plenty of plots here no bids even a medium is available. They are not going to add more wards just so you can get a DESIRED plot. Get a house and attempt transfer when it's possible.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

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Theres plenty of plots here no bids even a medium is available. They are not going to add more wards just so you can get a DESIRED plot. Get a house and attempt transfer when it's possible.

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Unfortunately you selected Ward 25 (on the first two screenshots) which is Free Company only ward.....

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Unfortunately you selected Ward 25 (on the first two screenshots) which is Free Company only ward.....

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ok my mistake but there's still personals with no bids

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Not going round all but theres at least 10 dotted around the personal wards and wouldnt be surprised if Empyrium has houses also.

I'm sorry but i don't think 50+ topics where people cry because they did not win a house in a lotery with 200+ bids on the same house, is very productive.
I have seen how this goes on my server. The almost whole population of housebuyers, bid on the S-tier houses on the same lot in the same wards,
leaving the other L and M houses on 0 bids.
Meanwhile crying they didnt win and because of that the housing system is crap, jada jada jada.

Well, i did win. A Large house. With 1 bid on it for 5 days. Mine. I have decorated and enjoying the view now. Very happy with it.
I just hope that all the houses that still have no owners in my ward, will fill up in the coming weeks, when people actually wake up and see that there still enough to choose from. But yeah, its not on the spot they want it, so the whole system is crap. Meanwhile half wards with a shitload of empty plots will remain how they are.

Ah well, what do I know. Im just an elitist, right?:rolleyes:https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/fc...f5da97e701.png

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

ok my mistake but there's still personals with no bids

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Not going round all but theres at least 10 dotted around the personal wards and wouldnt be surprised if Empyrium has houses also.

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Yeah - to be fair, I agree on that front. I mean, the two (small) plots neighboring my (small) house in Ward 27 of The Goblet are free and I check them, out of curiosity, fairly often to see if anyone has bid on them; to date no-one has shown them any interest. There are a fair few other plots in the Ward too, but I don't check on the bidding activity on those ones.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Yeah - to be fair, I agree on that front. I mean, the two (small) plots neighboring my (small) house in Ward 27 of The Goblet are free and I check them, out of curiosity, fairly often to see if anyone has bid on them; to date no-one has shown them any interest. There are a fair few other plots in the Ward too, but I don't check on the bidding activity on those ones.

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I do understand peoples desires for certain wards as I too wanted mist, but it took me 7 years of living in Goblet before I got it. I just dont understand the silly no house posts when there is houses. At least purchase a small anywhere so at least the demand for a house hopefully gets met. Then they can work on meeting the demand for upgrades, relocation etc.