This new SYSTEM DOESN'T Work

I got lucky and now have a personal house and a small fc house with a few friends. This would not have been possible under the old “click the board forever” method. My real life obligations do not allow me for much non interrupted gaming time and quite frankly, it was just mind numbing.

After the lotteries were released and after a failed attempt to get a medium in Ishgard, I didn’t get picky and simply chose the houses with less bids on them. The idea was to get my foot in the door and then bid on other houses that may come up if I like them better. Surprisingly the houses we got are rather close to a MB and not in a dark corner of a ward so I rather like them.

When the new wards will be released in January, I will try to upgrade to mediums. I may get more picky this time as I already have houses that I like. If it was my first house, I’d still go for the small with less bids. Medium is the perfect size for me but why didn’t SE put all the stairs in the same corner? It would have made a nicer ground floor layout with more space. I wish the smalls’ ground floor was the size of their basement.

However, all this doesn’t fix the fact that the FFXIV housing system is flawed with its finite number of houses. All the people I know who went to Dynamis, went there for houses for alts. Some to get extra houses. They don’t even play there much. At some point it is going to end with the same problem as older DCs. I’d be curious to know the proportion of real new players on Dynamis because alts don’t bring in new money to SE.

They should really implement instanced housing (bigger apartments with garden area for example) and allow sharing with alts. I also think some form of demolition should be re-enabled to ensure that it doesn’t become a complete ghost town and to make room for those that play the game, maybe not as it was before but perhaps a purge every year or two.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

Jesus Christ, no I'm not. Stop being so literal with my analogy. It's like talking to a robot.

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Analogies are based around things of comparable significance. Select something more appropriate for your analogy next time.

For instance, you might have used the analogy of a restaurant always running out of the ingredients for its most popular menu item each day. Obviously, the patrons that aren't lucky enough to arrive earlier are going to be very unhappy. Those that wanted that menu item bad enough might start going to a different restaurant that never runs out and the restaurant will lose business. Or they might choose other menu items instead. But the restaurant would be better off increasing their supply of the needed ingredients so their patrons are happy and better satisfied by their experience. Satisfaction builds loyalty and frequently brings in new patrons through word of mouth.

That would be a good food-based analogy for what is happening here. And that is what SE needs to do - a better job of ensuring their supply is going to meet the ongoing demand. Allegedly, this game is basically funding the company right now as their other projects aren't anywhere close to being as successful. They need to be doing what they can to keep the existing players happy and bring in new players to replace those lost to normal attrition.

If ownership of a house has become one of the major draws for the game, then they need to invest more into the housing system so players feel like they're getting the promoted experience.

I swear, complaining about housing is much more fun than owning a house. There are plenty of opportunities to get a pixelated house. One, move to a new world, tons of new houses plus all the bonuses that come with it. Two, pray to the housing gods to give you a house. Or three, complain until you're blue in the face. Guaranteed, option three will not work.

This system is fair for all..

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

This system is fair for all..

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Well no not really, it heavily favors people who can run bot farms and have alts.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Thousands of NA players over the last two weeks have purchased houses and 99.9% of them had zero competition for their plot. Considering you're on Marilith, you're probably one of them.

Why pretend that 99.9% chance that SE gave you was only 0.0000025%?

Would it be nice if SE could adopt LotRO's system of adding new wards as needed just on the worlds where they are needed? Of course. They should have better researched what MMO players expect from housing before implementing a half-baked system that doesn't meet player expectations.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be possible with their game set-up. In that case, players need to seize what opportunity may be presented to them if they're going to get what they want. Or they can sit in the forums complaining and do without.

Hopefully, you weren't trying to go after one of the premium plots that had what little competition there was so you have your house now. If you didn't win, there are still houses left for the next lottery and you can get one then.

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You're leaving out the part where I had to leave a server and a free company to go to a new server that is so cripplingly dead that you have to DC travel to do the MSQ.

I got the house, but I'm not going to sit on a high horse like you and pretend the system is great. Its dogshit really.
I seized said oppertuntiy at the price it came for, but I'm not going to act like its reasonable or there aren't inexcusable faults in the system, nor am I going to make excuses for a multi billion dollar corporation thats been investing less and less into this game since endwalker dropped.

Said server is now out of Larges and has a handful of mediums left, in a month we'll be right back to the 0% vs 0.00000000025% metric of the old system vs the new one save for smalls. I just wish they'd focus on solutions instead of bandaids.
I guess I expect more from a Buy 2 Play Subscription based game held by a corporation as large as Square Enix.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

You're leaving out the part where I had to leave a server and a free company to go to a new server that is so cripplingly dead that you have to DC travel to do the MSQ.

I got the house, but I'm not going to sit on a high horse like you and pretend the system is great. Its dogshit really.
I seized said oppertuntiy at the price it came for, but I'm not going to act like its reasonable or there aren't inexcusable faults in the system, nor am I going to make excuses for a multi billion dollar corporation thats been investing less and less into this game since endwalker dropped.

Said server is now out of Larges and has a handful of mediums left, in a month we'll be right back to the 0% vs 0.00000000025% metric of the old system vs the new one save for smalls. I just wish they'd focus on solutions instead of bandaids.
I guess I expect more from a Buy 2 Play Subscription based game held by a corporation as large as Square Enix.

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Jojoya has never claimed that the housing system was great. She has repeated called out faults in the system and has offered ideas on how to solve them. I'm going to assume that your statement about her was made in the heat of the moment and does not reflect a proper thoughtful response. Still, I think you owe Jojoya an apology for having made such a statement.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Well no not really, it heavily favors people who can run bot farms and have alts.

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whats stoping you from making 8 characters?

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Originally Posted by Arohk

whats stoping you from making 8 characters?

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$2 extra in sub fees

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Originally Posted by Oizen

You're leaving out the part where I had to leave a server and a free company to go to a new server that is so cripplingly dead that you have to DC travel to do the MSQ.

I got the house, but I'm not going to sit on a high horse like you and pretend the system is great. Its dogshit really.
I seized said oppertuntiy at the price it came for, but I'm not going to act like its reasonable or there aren't inexcusable faults in the system, nor am I going to make excuses for a multi billion dollar corporation thats been investing less and less into this game since endwalker dropped.

Said server is now out of Larges and has a handful of mediums left, in a month we'll be right back to the 0% vs 0.00000000025% metric of the old system vs the new one save for smalls. I just wish they'd focus on solutions instead of bandaids.
I guess I expect more from a Buy 2 Play Subscription based game held by a corporation as large as Square Enix.

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Sounds like you're not even trying.

I've taken my transferred character back to my old home world several times to meet up with friends and FC. It's usually 60 seconds there and 30 seconds back when I'm done. Think the longest wait I've had for data center travel was 2 minutes 10 seconds so far.

I've had no problems with roulettes. They're a bit slow off peak but that's okay, I can do other things like FATEs and leves for Challenge log or hunt bills and tribal quests while I wait.

No where am I pretending or implying the system is great. That's your bitter nature twisting my words in your head.

What I've said is that regardless of what we want the system to be, we need to deal with what it is and take what advantage of what is available until SE chooses to change things. The opportunities are out there for those who want a house bad enough. If they aren't going to seize those opportunities to get their house and sit in the forums complaining instead, then we know all they really want is reasons to complain.

Thousands of small and dozens of mediums still left on the Dynamis data center for NA players who claim they need a house, and that's not including what is in the wards reserved for FC that can't start entering until next week.

1800 more plots coming in patch 6.3 for every world.

If someone currently playing the game hasn't managed to get a house by the time 6.35 is released, they only have themselves to blame.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

$2 extra in sub fees

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The extra $2 in sub fees is to have 40 characters. The entry sub allows for 8, and SE recently removed the one per world restriction so you can have all 8 on the same world now.