Hey look a spreadsheet of all the eureka bots!

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Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

Well thing is banning bots from Eureka won't stop bots coming back to Eureka.
Removing bunny fate from Eureka won't stop bot coming back to Eureka as long there is other content that give good amount of gil.
Removing all gil rewards from Eureka can stop bots coming back to Eureka but then they move to other high gil gain content.

And as long players keep buying gil and other services with real money from RMT bots, the bots will always be problem in FFXIV.
So if you want there be less bots in any content is by banning players who buys gil and other services with real money from RMT bots or if you want get rid of bots completley is by making everything untradeable between players that bots don't have anything to sell to other player for real money but this is something that no one wants and it pretty much never happens.

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If you ban them often enough to make their operation not profitable they won't be coming back.

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Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

Well thing is banning bots from Eureka won't stop bots coming back to Eureka.
Removing bunny fate from Eureka won't stop bot coming back to Eureka as long there is other content that give good amount of gil.
Removing all gil rewards from Eureka can stop bots coming back to Eureka but then they move to other high gil gain content.

And as long players keep buying gil and other services with real money from RMT bots, the bots will always be problem in FFXIV.
So if you want there be less bots in any content is by banning players who buys gil and other services with real money from RMT bots or if you want get rid of bots completley is by making everything untradeable between players that bots don't have anything to sell to other player for real money but this is something that no one wants and it pretty much never happens.

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this!
Ban the buyers and increase the time banned to 3 month or even perma

I've come to the conclusion that once a bot gets past level 60 then SE no longer does anything about them. I've given up on reporting the level 90 gathering bot. I was reporting the exact same bots since early Stormblood and they are still gathering at the time I post this.

Mass botting happens. SE notices.

SE's only real measure against it... add story/level skips to the mogstation...
Oh! Crisis averted. Now for every Eureka bot SE gets over 70 USD! Yay!

The actual players? *looks at active sub numbers* Eh. They will get over it.

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Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

Banning bots often enough won't stop bots at all when they can just increase their prices to become profitable again.

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You can't infinitely increase Gil prices because people have a certain threshold that they are willing to pay. At some point, it won't be profitable enough for the bots to continue Gil farming. First off, a bot has to break even and level up an account in order to farm Gil. Eureka bots have to be over level 70, level up their elemental level and on top of that, they have to farm around 100 million Gil to break even. That should take at least a week or two to do all of that.

If bots don't last that long they CAN'T be profitable.

So if the general consensus is that banning bots or those accounts are pointless are we good to use them?

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Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

You know there always be people who are willing paying any price for gil and other services that RMT bots are selling.

Also don't forget that most bots uses stolen credit card info to buy the new game + all expansions license and X amount of game time, so bots pretty much are always profitable even if did sell gil and other serives for loss when they didn't spend their own money.

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Unless there's enough demand there won't be a profit for the bot farmers. Supply and Demand. The goal is not to eradicate RMT, but to reduce it.

every single person saying they would deserve to get banned for reporting bots because it's against the rules are the same twerps that reminded the teacher about homework before class ended

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Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000

You know there always be people who are willing paying any price for gil and other services that RMT bots are selling.

Also don't forget that most bots uses stolen credit card info to buy the new game + all expansions license and X amount of game time, so bots pretty much are always profitable even if did sell gil and other serives for loss when they didn't spend their own money.

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Where is the source for this?

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

And i'm sure they're not doing anything beyond what they've been doing for years, namely nothing much. I doubt it would take 10 freaking years to come up with SOMETHING to attempt, so either they're wilfully ignoring it or are incredibly incompetent. Or their masters are keeping them from doing anything. Or it's not a problem in JP servers, so it's not a problem. Who could ever tell? SE could, but they won't.

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Or they do make changes to the system and then the bot programs find ways around it, just like in every other MMO out there. FFXIV doesn't have an exclusive bot problem. WoW is just as bad.