PvP job rebalance suggestions

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Originally Posted by LowIQ

Good post.
One of the best variations of "lol skill issue xD" garbage non-arguments I've ever seen.

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If you are at all familiar with competitive games of most any sort, then you are surely aware that bad players will make all kinds of excuses or reasons for why "that thing that beat me" should be nerfed/isn't fair. And you would then, presumably, also be aware that nearly all such arguments are flatly wrong and borne out of a lack of understanding and skill. Telling someone that they lack the skill or understanding isn't a non-argument, it's just stating a fact. What they do with it is up to them; scrubs will continue to make excuses, while other players will seek to learn *why* they are mistaken, or what they can do to develop their skill such that that previously unbeatable whatever is now no longer an issue.

Removing the invuln from DRK and PLD would help with balance. WHM 18k hit isn't that different from other dps lbs and whm isn't really a healer in pvp since cure 2 takes time and does less than a recuperation. Considering how several classes have guaranteed kill lbs, a stun isnt that big of a deal

RPR's Tenebrae Lemurum should be CC immune, like WAR's Primal Scream. The initial Hysteria is useful, but unless you already have the teamfight advantage you almost immediately get stunlocked after. Its burst is already significantly weaker as it is than jobs that just release their LB in a single strike.

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Originally Posted by Lyth

RPR's Tenebrae Lemurum should be CC immune, like WAR's Primal Scream. The initial Hysteria is useful, but unless you already have the teamfight advantage you almost immediately get stunlocked after. Its burst is already significantly weaker as it is than jobs that just release their LB in a single strike.

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It's fine. It's an AOE that forces movement and breaks Guard and can't be purified. The damage is just icing on the cake.

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Originally Posted by Gserpent

It's fine. It's an AOE that forces movement and breaks Guard and can't be purified. The damage is just icing on the cake.

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That's a terrible take. It's a 2 second fear. That's hardly LB tier material on its own.

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Originally Posted by LowIQ

Frontline BLM is just buggy.
Superflare won't hit if the target is slightly above or below you so you pretty much can't blast people from atop cliffs or when the terrain is uneven (like in onsal).
Aetherial Manip can't be used with mouseover macros reliably because if you accidentally hover over an alliance member you will teleport in place (and die 5 microseconds later).

This will never be fixed unfortunately since it's not a problem in Crystal Conflict.

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This happens with red mage limit break too! I would love to use it more liberally, but I have like PTSD from it being wasted. Lol.

It has happened to me in CC on the stairs in the neutral no hazards map as well.

Does Sage have a 'no damage shield' that not guard?
Because if they do that is strong. Guard I can see. Blue bubble. A hidden shield is dumb... or I ran into a cheater. /shrug.


And buff bard I guess. Need add that.

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Originally Posted by Lyth

That's a terrible take. It's a 2 second fear. That's hardly LB tier material on its own.

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LOL, what? It's an AOE WHM polymorph that forces movement away from the point. RPR LB *alone* can end the game in overtime if played at the right moment.

Even if it did nothing to buff the RPR, it would still be very strong.

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Originally Posted by Lyth

RPR's Tenebrae Lemurum should be CC immune, like WAR's Primal Scream. The initial Hysteria is useful, but unless you already have the teamfight advantage you almost immediately get stunlocked after. Its burst is already significantly weaker as it is than jobs that just release their LB in a single strike.

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Yea sure every 45 seconds, full anti cleanse aoe fear with full immunity dealing tons of damage, what could go wrong?
RPR absolutely needs no buffs, they can win overtime solo, they fully enable lb of other jobs, they have pressure, movement and a shield.
Just because 99.5% of all reapers blow doesn't mean it needs a buff, you just don't know hot to play it properly because it needs more brain
activity than a simple I PRESSED DA BUTTON LULW

Make GNB Draw and Junction swap between Tank > Healer > DPS stances the same way RDM swaps between Black and White stances, move the Powder Barrel from Draw and Junction to Junctioned Cast. This eliminates current clunky Draw and Junction interactions, and allows GNB to be in whichever stance that suites the teams needs regardless of the enemy team composition.