People advertising they're running Parsers

Mention one in a party with me and i will report you as soon as we finish, GM's can sort it out.

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Originally Posted by Felixforever

Mention one in a party with me and i will report you as soon as we finish, GM's can sort it out.

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As long as you're not in my savage parties, I suppose. And this isn't even about someone potentially mentioning a parser.

Typically people who are adamantly against parsers aren't that great gameplay-wise. Major red flag for me.

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Originally Posted by Medura

Parsers is fully legit to use as they doesnt affect the game in any way. What IS bannable though is harrashment of other players, which telling them they are bad due to low dps etc. on parsers is.

Basically, use them to better oneself, not to try to ridicule others.

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The thing is: i have met a lot of people who claimed: "I just use it for myself." But then they dumped on every player on every possibillity while in Discord.
So i simply do not believe them anymore.

(Yes i have done Savage in the Past)

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

As long as you're not in my savage parties, I suppose. And this isn't even about someone potentially mentioning a parser.

Typically people who are adamantly against parsers aren't that great gameplay-wise. Major red flag for me.

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I'm fine with parsers but I really don't like gameplay third-party plugins (like Cactbot). I've been forced to use triggers for prog before and it was an unenjoyable experience because I didn't feel like I actually learned anything. People should not conflate parsing and the actual gameplay-impacting plugins like Cactbot. The former IMHO is totally harmless.

I can see why people are wary of third party tools coming from WoW but they need to realize that parsing by itself is very different from things like DBM.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

The thing is: i have met a lot of people who claimed: "I just use it for myself." But then they dumped on every player on every possibillity while in Discord.
So i simply do not believe them anymore.

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There's a difference between dumping in-game and dumping in-Discord. The latter is allowed depending on the rules of the server. The former is not.

I mean what can you do - report me for my VC chat in FFXIV?

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Originally Posted by Skiros

I'm fine with parsers but I really don't like gameplay third-party plugins (like Cactbot). I've been forced to use triggers for prog before and it was an unenjoyable experience because I didn't feel like I actually learned anything. People should not conflate parsing and the actual gameplay-impacting plugins like Cactbot. The former IMHO is totally harmless.

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I also loathe Cactbot. I personally view it as hampering your own progress in fights. So I agree.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

There's a difference between dumping in-game and dumping in-Discord. The latter is allowed depending on the rules of the server. The former is not.

I mean what can you do - report me for my VC chat in FFXIV?

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The point is: People saying this are usually just lying.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

The point is: People saying this are usually just lying.

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How? They're still using it for themselves. They're allowed to comment on other facets of the battle if they want. And whatever else is said is done in an entirely separate setting.

It goes under datamining, because you get to see what the others is doing as well as it records to the same place all, combat logs should be private and SE can do something about that, so you can only see numbers of your own doing.

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

How? They're still using it for themselves. They're allowed to comment on other facets of the battle if they want. And whatever else is said is done in an entirely separate setting.

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Commenting and using every possible chance to insult and crap down on people are a completely different thing Mia. I too get frustrated when i notice a permadead dps or a player who by use of his skills just does not the required amount of damage for savage or Extreme. But then i tell em that in a polite fashion and ask them to practice their Rotation before Entering harder content.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Commenting and using every possible chance to insult and crap down on people are a completely different thing Mia. I too get frustrated when i notice a permadead dps or a player who by use of his skills just does not the required amount of damage for savage or Extreme. But then i tell em that in a polite fashion and ask them to practice their Rotation before Entering harder content.

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And yet this is done in a fashion that has nothing to do with the in-game chat.

I'd understand if people were being insulted in-game. As that's explicitly a bannable offense. But regardless of if a parser is used or not, harsh criticisms can still fly behind close doors. I'm 100% certain people had discussed me in an unfavorable light - but that's largely irrelevant because I've never heard it personally.