Endwalker Warrior Looks Great

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Looking at the tooltips I assume NF is basically just a support tool in EW, used solely to heal a party member, grant them mitigation and a shield. Bloodwhetting on the other hand can't even be used on someone else and is simply another defensive cooldown for yourself, they're not really competing with each other since the choice is binary.

Need mitigation and healing for yourself? Use Bloodwhetting. Need mitigation and healing for a party member? Use Nascent Flash.

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I could be reading the tooltips wrong but they seem to do the same thing except like you said, NF works on allies. Why not just make it 1 button and work on allies or self? Both provide 10% dmg reduction, life leech on weaponskills and a barrier.

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Originally Posted by PariahDoge

I could be reading the tooltips wrong but they seem to do the same thing except like you said, NF works on allies. Why not just make it 1 button and work on allies or self? Both provide 10% dmg reduction, life leech on weaponskills and a barrier.

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Bloodwhetting is an upgrade of Raw Intuition, that's pretty much the only reason I can think of.

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Originally Posted by PariahDoge

I could be reading the tooltips wrong but they seem to do the same thing except like you said, NF works on allies. Why not just make it 1 button and work on allies or self? Both provide 10% dmg reduction, life leech on weaponskills and a barrier.

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Nascent Flash heals both the user and the target, whereas Bloodwhetting only affects the user.

So, in scenarios where both tanks are taking damage (like the first two phases of TEA, for example), the most powerful option would be to have the WAR use Nascent Flash and the other tank use targeted TBN, targeted HoC, or Intervention (however, Holy Sheltron is superior to baseline Intervention, so you may still just use Bloodwhetting with a PLD co-tank).

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

I'm sorry buy your experience doesn't not make you an expert and most high end tanks can easily find multiple points in pretty much every fight where proper Gap closer use can and does increase tank uptime. You are very much part of the problem.

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Prove it, then. Provide me an example of parts of fight in current content where a "Gap Closer" will consistently be of substantial use.

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Originally Posted by Videra

Prove it, then. Provide me an example of parts of fight in current content where a "Gap Closer" will consistently be of substantial use.

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e12s part 2

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Originally Posted by Duskane

e12s part 2

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Alright, now name more. I will happily be proven wrong about my point of the necessity for using Gap Closers to save a GCD being a rarity.

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Originally Posted by Videra

Alright, now name more. I will happily be proven wrong about my point of the necessity for using Gap Closers to save a GCD being a rarity.

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e11s elemental break with halos (lightning then fire stack)
e10s shadow bait
e8s wyrms lament
WoL ex for meteor limit break

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Originally Posted by Duskane

e11s elemental break with halos (lightning then fire stack)
e10s shadow bait
e8s wyrms lament
WoL ex for meteor limit break

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Alright, I can accept that. I am wrong.

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Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart

Nascent Flash heals both the user and the target, whereas Bloodwhetting only affects the user.

So, in scenarios where both tanks are taking damage (like the first two phases of TEA, for example), the most powerful option would be to have the WAR use Nascent Flash and the other tank use targeted TBN, targeted HoC, or Intervention (however, Holy Sheltron is superior to baseline Intervention, so you may still just use Bloodwhetting with a PLD co-tank).

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So it sounds like since you can NF yourself you may as well take Bloodwhetting off the bar and use NF on yourself if you need the CD or on others as needed.

The WAR only gets Nascent Flash; they don't receive Nascent Glint (assumedly, they similarly don't receive Stem the Tide nor Stem the Flow). So, unlike in Shadowbringers, there will be no reason to use Nascent Flash solely for personal use in Endwalker.

There probably is a way to consolidate Nascent Flash and Bloodwhetting into one button without nerfing or buffing either ability, but it would be fairly convoluted. For instance, it might be possible to separate Nascent Glint into two different effects but disallow the stacking of the two healing effects. However, that's a bit inelegant, and it would make Nascent Flash apply yet another effect (which can be problematic if buff limits are a concern).