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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Can you really get mad at people for botting around such a terrible system?

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not everyone is rich, it is still illegal to steal

is the system bad, of course. doesnt give one permission to cheat or go against TOS however

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Can you really get mad at people for botting around such a terrible system?

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Yes.

They clicked "I agree" to the ToS. You don't get the right to break that agreement because something in the game isn't designed to your standards.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Can you really get mad at people for botting around such a terrible system?

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Not word for word. But I swear this has been the defacto answer/justification. for botting since MMO's started. Bad design = Free pass to cheat.

Yes, I'm sure all the self righteous people here never speed or violate other rules or laws.

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

"I donno if scamming people by taking advantage of them is actually a scam though"

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They are bots not people.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Yes, I'm sure all the self righteous people here never speed or violate other rules or laws.

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tell you what, if you are caught speeding or violating any laws, I ask that you defend yourself with "its a bad law, you cant do anything to me" and see how far that gets you.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Yes, I'm sure all the self righteous people here never speed or violate other rules or laws.

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It's one thing to speed or violate some rules. It's another thing to harm other people by violating that rules.

And people who use bots are screwing over the people who don't. Especially the ones on PS4 who can't even use a bot if they wanted to.

Yes the system is terrible. But using a bot makes it even worse for the people who don't violate the rules.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

tell you what, if you are caught speeding or violating any laws, I ask that you defend yourself with "its a bad law, you cant do anything to me" and see how far that gets you.

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To be fair, unjust laws are meant to be broken, and victimless crimes are a reason for jury nullification.

This isn't a law that was broken, therefore its not illegal.

I like arguing semantics.

Carry on

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Originally Posted by Imora

To be fair, unjust laws are meant to be broken, and victimless crimes are a reason for jury nullification.

This isn't a law that was broken, therefore its not illegal.

I like arguing semantics.

Carry on

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you are correct, they were the ones bringing laws into it.

however, using a bot program is against the ToS which we all signed. therefore is cheating.

now, you can semantic cheating any way you like, but its still cheating. semantics just allow the cheater to feel better about doing it by justifying their cheating by saying "the system sucks so I am going to work around the same system the non cheaters use by using this program to give me an edge over them"

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

tell you what, if you are caught speeding or violating any laws, I ask that you defend yourself with "its a bad law, you cant do anything to me" and see how far that gets you.

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While not it's a bad law defense, I did get off a speeding ticket by telling the police officer that I just open up and see what my car could do. It was a straight away near a school zone at 2 am. Officer just let me go.

In short if those in power do not choose to enforce the rules or laws then people should not be shocked when others break said rules.