Pulling During Cutscene

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

This thread and it’s responses have shown to me exactly what the op is referring to. Some of the holier than thou responses. I’m sorry op. These forums are a reflection of this community. Say or do something they don’t like, expect the negativity

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No one called OP names or attacked them personally. If strongly disagreeing with someone who is defending bad behavior is a reflection of the community than I’m more than happy with the community. I’m sorry, but I’d rather have some holier than thou responses towards this than people forcing or even pressuring others to skip cutscenes. Not to even mention the holier than thou attitude you yourself are displaying with this post. Is that also a poor reflection on the community? Or is it just a natural response? Personally I’d say the latter.

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Originally Posted by Trobon

No one called OP names or attacked them personally. If strongly disagreeing with someone who is defending bad behavior is a reflection of the community than I’m more than happy with the community. I’m sorry, but I’d rather have some holier than thou responses towards this than people forcing or even pressuring others to skip cutscenes. Not to even mention the holier than thou attitude you yourself are displaying with this post. Is that also a poor reflection on the community? Or is it just a natural response? Personally I’d say the latter.

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It’s hard to see our own faults. Especially when we believe ourselves righteous or at minimum, correct. I’d direct you to a former post if yours, but you won’t see it. Whether it’s direct name calling, or being derogatory about a person simply because your views do not align. Good luck to you. Hope you find calm in your days

I don't pull boss's because I'm a healer main but if I ever tanked something and I pulled it intentionally or accidently and someone started being "toxic" I would simply report every single one of them.
It's free real estate.

We finally need the definitve solution for that - you cant attack a boss if someone is watching his cutscene and make the first time unskippable so ppl cant force you, also increase the penalty if someone leaves within 10 min when someone new is there.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

We finally need the definitve solution for that - you cant attack a boss if someone is watching his cutscene and make the first time unskippable so ppl cant force you, also increase the penalty if someone leaves within 10 min when someone new is there.

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I can see that going one of two ways. People would either stop using duty finder altogether, or a lot more new people are going to get kicked from dungeons. I don't think punishing the community in any way is a solution to any problem.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

It’s hard to see our own faults. Especially when we believe ourselves righteous or at minimum, correct. I’d direct you to a former post if yours, but you won’t see it. Whether it’s direct name calling, or being derogatory about a person simply because your views do not align. Good luck to you. Hope you find calm in your days

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Well I guess that’s one way to not have a conversation. No holier than thou attitude here huh?

I’m not going to play guessing games on what you think was an attack on them. The only people I said anything about were people who pull before the cutscene is finished and think their time is worth more than others’ who I do think are toxic. If OP isn’t one of them that’s fine, but those people are toxic. Saying so is no different than the OP or your own posts putting down people who get upset at them and “white knight.”

Since the OP and you have both engaged in that kind of talk I think your outrage is a bit hypocritical.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

I can see that going one of two ways. People would either stop using duty finder altogether, or a lot more new people are going to get kicked from dungeons. I don't think punishing the community in any way is a solution to any problem.

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Kicking someone for being new is against the TOS and people who do that would be reported. As for people not running DF, it hasn’t stopped them from running MSQ DF so I kind of doubt it.

Honestly, I ended up dead in an MSQ dungeon run last week, as the healer! They pulled the boss whilst I was in a cutscene, I didn't react quick enough to the warning, and got locked out. Then everyone died because no healer. I also missed lots of the cutscene as I was trying to figure out how to join the fight.

It was not a nice experience, and I have felt self-conscious watching cutscenes since then. I'm new to the game, and want to see the story properly, but as the healer I also don't want to cause wipes.

In short, please don't pull during a cutscene, it just puts pressure on new players and it's unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

We finally need the definitve solution for that - you cant attack a boss if someone is watching his cutscene and make the first time unskippable so ppl cant force you, also increase the penalty if someone leaves within 10 min when someone new is there.

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I dont mind unskippable cutscenes if someone is new. Most dungeon cutscenes are short anyway except for maybe toto-rak, stone vigil or baelsar wall. It even means i can grab a drink before the last boss. So i support this idea.
The penalty increase on the other hand wouldnt work. People would just fake dc more.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

I can see that going one of two ways. People would either stop using duty finder altogether, or a lot more new people are going to get kicked from dungeons. I don't think punishing the community in any way is a solution to any problem.

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People will just complain about it more in the forum. Like all those threads about msq roulette. Nothing to worry about.

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Originally Posted by Trobon

Kicking someone for being new is against the TOS and people who do that would be reported. As for people not running DF, it hasn’t stopped them from running MSQ DF so I kind of doubt it.

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Pretty much this ^

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Originally Posted by znushu

it's because it's nice too let them finish the Cutscene first before you pull

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Monster shows up/lands, roars, battle swirl/fade effect.

You now saw 90% of the cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

We finally need the definitve solution for that - you cant attack a boss if someone is watching his cutscene and make the first time unskippable so ppl cant force you, also increase the penalty if someone leaves within 10 min when someone new is there.

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Turning every dungeon into Praetorium is a good way to get folks to stop using Roulette.