Zadnor: Did you learn literally nothing from Castrum Lacus Litore?

I'd say it's a step up. Way easier to get the drops for the relic quests. You get a guaranteed 1 drop of the first kind for each quest per fate depending on the part of the zone you're in, and you get a guaranteed 2 drops for the 2nd item per CE. While this won't be faster than spamming the raids for the 2nd item, you can essentially limit the amount you need to do just from leveling up in Zadnor first to the cap. When I hit the cap, I had 30/24/22/14/15/8. That means I only needed to do 6 A3 runs, 8 O1 runs, 16 O3 runs, 15 E1 runs, and 22 E3 runs. That's not bad considering the abysmal drop rate of the other items back in Southern Front at launch.

Even if the zone does scale to compensate for the fact that it will be dead in a week, there's still literally no reason to not have it be something you can queue for outside of the instance. Why ever limit content to only the people in one instanced zone; it's like they're intentionally trying to kill it as fast as possible.

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Originally Posted by Goji1639

Even if the zone does scale to compensate for the fact that it will be dead in a week, there's still literally no reason to not have it be something you can queue for outside of the instance. Why ever limit content to only the people in one instanced zone; it's like they're intentionally trying to kill it as fast as possible.

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This guy gets it. There is zero functional reason to keep it inside the instance other than to pad instance numbers.

If you have to effectively force the player base into your content, it's not well designed.

If the skirmishes scale like they're supposed to, low numbers inside the instance are a moot point.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

Then Delubrum in contrast, my biggest complaint is the doom mechanic, I feel like it has a better place in Savage where you're expecting better co-ordination with people, so I'd be hesitant to use Delubrum as a 'good' example. I'm not against adding challenges, heck I support it but the doom mechanic felt too much like artificial difficulty where it can make runs of it more painful than they need to be. But some of the fight mechanics are fun. The Doom mechanic is more frustrating as a healer, I'd rather heal people for making mistakes than rez people for making them, maybe then it feels like I'm playing my role.

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The doom mechanic in that raid effectively makes the HP Increase honor pointless and that shouldn't be the case.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

If the skirmishes scale like they're supposed to, low numbers inside the instance are a moot point.

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To add to this, raids like CLL likely screw up the scaling for the rest of Bozja. Random example, but if half the people in Bozja are just waiting for CLL to pop then the people actually running FATES aren't getting the correct scaling for their numbers.

Dalriada is so easy it's crazy if you ever think it's a red traffic light, it's easier than Alliance Raids. You can literally clear the fight 6 man.

For Relic Weapons, once you obtain the 180 items, I can confirm it myself you don't need to do it again. The step is skipped for extra Relic Weapons and goes straight to the final Step 15 Raw Emotions.

I'll still be sticking to Zadnor mainly for the damn coins. The hairstyle is already worth my time as well as some of the FFXII armor.
The only thing kinda holding me back is the stupid lockbox loot table. This is not even desire sensor, I am getting more prism compared to the Southern Front lockbox it is not even funny.
You'd think people screaming bloody murder on the purple prism would have improved but I guess not lol

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

My only gripe for this particular zone is how scarce the CE is in third zone. The previous two zones can spawn dozens by the time the 3rd gets their 2nd CE.

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That's probably because not a lot of people are killing the Magitek mobs in the third zone. Make a cluster farm party up there and you'll pop them (it's either that, or people aren't activating/finishing a FATE that leads into a CE).

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Originally Posted by Nestama

That's probably because not a lot of people are killing the Magitek mobs in the third zone. Make a cluster farm party up there and you'll pop them (it's either that, or people aren't activating/finishing a FATE that leads into a CE).

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This has been suspected but never confirmed. I pulled magitek mobs in every single skirmish I was at (50+ of them) and saw TWO CEs during that leveling.