Half of a ward being owned by one person

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Damn you really are blind, maybe Jojoya (or whatever their name is, I'm sorry Jojo if I get your name wrong), should tell you as well that this has been going for years and years, if they wanted to do something they would have done it by now, you need to stop trolling.

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Editing this for the sheer need to nip this in the bud and close out my posting on here.

I am fully aware it has been going on for years and years. You can read the dates on some of these threads for as far back as when these forums opened.

But I think there's a big neglect toward the concept of change.
The housing interaction has evolved and probably will continue to do so.

For the sake of looping this back to OP's original complaint--
It is unfortunate that there are players who get greedy, that there are people within the community that defend it, and would argue blue in the face that it's allowed.
I really do empathize because I had been that player trying for years to get a house and I did make the move. It's unfortunate that greed among players followed that trend and nothing has been done to put a curb to it.
Again, not a developer so I don't have many solutions to offer in that department beyond sincerity that not all of the community is like that and hopefully it stops before it gets worse.

Best of luck, OP!

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Originally Posted by CatStarwind

Clearly.


I do wonder what it's called when you circumvent a restriction. Especially when done to a severe degree.

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He is at it again.

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Originally Posted by LordSunny

Shoot, I suggested that on another thread just hours ago over a gent in our ward that bought 7 personal houses all in the same ward, and got ripped apart for it.

It's sad when if you're on a congested server, how dare players complain and not move?
If you're on a new server, players don't have a right to say what you just did.

Sounds like no one ultimately gets a voice.

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I never did get an answer to my question. How do you know it's one person on 7 accounts?

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Damn you really are blind, maybe Jojoya (or whatever their name is, I'm sorry Jojo if I get your name wrong), should tell you as well that this has been going for years and years, if they wanted to do something they would have done it by now, you need to stop trolling.

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And he would be wrong and hypocritical. Things are not as black and white. There's a finite number of resources and mountain of projects. Even removing belts or adding subdivisions were herculean endeavors.

If SE can trust the community to not abuse exploits they generally do, so that they can put more effort on other parts of the game.

As Jojoya said personally before, this is an exploit SE trusts people not to abuse.

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Originally Posted by CatStarwind

And he would be wrong and hypocritical. Things are not as black and white. There's a finite number of resources and mountain of projects. Even removing belts or adding subdivisions were herculean endeavors.

If SE can trust the community to not abuse exploits they generally do, so that they can put more effort on other parts of the game.

As Jojoya said personally before, this is an exploit SE trusts people not to abuse.

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At no time have I said that having multiple accounts is an exploit.

Please do not put words in my mouth or take my comments out of context. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

At no time have I said that having multiple accounts is an exploit.

Please do not put words in my mouth or take my comments out of context. Thank you.

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I'm sorry that I erred on a meaningless technicality. Truly a most devastating gotcha.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Clearly, they do not want players owning multiple FC houses but they're relying on players to do the right thing instead of manually enforcing it in the absence of enforcement through programming. It's just a shame some players are greedy and won't limit themselves so others have a chance to enjoy the content.

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I wonder what other words could be used to describe a situation where players do a thing not intended by developers.

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Originally Posted by CatStarwind

I'm sorry that I erred on a meaningless technicality. Truly a most devastating gotcha.



I wonder what other words could be used to describe a situation where players do a thing not intended by developers.

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Ownership of multiple accounts is very much intended, though, and has been all along. If you were to continue to scroll through my past comments, you would come across the times I said that players who were acquiring their additional houses through purchase of multiple service accounts were doing nothing wrong as they were paying for that additional access. My issue was with those who were obtaining multiple FC houses on the same world and same service account at that time.

Remember that you're intentionally necroing threads from the past when the published rules for housing were different from what they are now. Every time you quote something housing related from prior to April 2022, you're taking things out of context to suit your personal arguments and making your position even weaker because those of us who were present for those discussions know what the full context was as of that time in the game while you don't.

As I have said before, I do not like the rules changes but I accept them. I'm not going to go on the attack against players who are doing what SE has stated is allowed.

Multiple account ownership is allowed. SE cannot take away access that comes with a paid service account without violating consumer protection laws in those countries that have them. Anyone trying to claim that multiple account ownership is an exploit is ignorant.

Multiple house ownership per world is allowed now by SE's own published Housing Guide where that guide did not include that provision prior to April 2022. I'm not going to accuse players who are doing so of any wrongdoing.

Instead I am going to continue to press SE to fix the system.

Now let's say SE did change the rules yet again to a hardfast one personal and one FC house only per account. Do you genuinely believe that would solve the supply issue and there would no longer be players unable to get a house?

If that's what you believe, the more the fool you are.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Ownership of multiple accounts is very much intended, though, and has been all along.

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Sure but you brought that up not me. What i quoted and commented on is the sentiment that "if they wanted to do something they would have done it by now".

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Ownership of multiple accounts is very much intended, though, and has been all along. If you were to continue to scroll through my past comments, you would come across the times I said that players who were acquiring their additional houses through purchase of multiple service accounts were doing nothing wrong as they were paying for that additional access. My issue was with those who were obtaining multiple FC houses on the same world and same service account at that time.

Remember that you're intentionally necroing threads from the past when the published rules for housing were different from what they are now. Every time you quote something housing related from prior to April 2022, you're taking things out of context to suit your personal arguments and making your position even weaker because those of us who were present for those discussions know what the full context was as of that time in the game while you don't.

As I have said before, I do not like the rules changes but I accept them. I'm not going to go on the attack against players who are doing what SE has stated is allowed.

Multiple account ownership is allowed. SE cannot take away access that comes with a paid service account without violating consumer protection laws in those countries that have them. Anyone trying to claim that multiple account ownership is an exploit is ignorant.

Multiple house ownership per world is allowed now by SE's own published Housing Guide where that guide did not include that provision prior to April 2022. I'm not going to accuse players who are doing so of any wrongdoing.

Instead I am going to continue to press SE to fix the system.

Now let's say SE did change the rules yet again to a hardfast one personal and one FC house only per account. Do you genuinely believe that would solve the supply issue and there would no longer be players unable to get a house?

If that's what you believe, the more the fool you are.

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He's just got his undies in a bunch. Something must really be bothering him that he's chosen this crusade against multi-owners. First it was RMT, then sub farming, then multi-owning. He also forgets that the things SE writes about regarding housing are guides. There is nothing in the ToS about it. He can't even find it.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I'm not going to go on the attack against players who are doing what SE has stated is allowed.

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I have never once attacked other players. I have in fact gone out of my way to make clear this is a game mechanic issue.

Please do not put words in my mouth or take my comments out of context. Thank you.