Please don't delay Savage Raid Releases

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Originally Posted by linayar

Well, one downside is people who are willing to schedule a week off work to do both story quests and savage raiding now has to take two weeks off instead.

Whereas the only con I can see is related to a race that is not part of the game. Otherwise, the waiting game can apply to both sides.

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Not really? You just take the week off for savage a week later, and just spend the evenings after your work doing the story & normal modes in the preceeding week at a relaxing pace; you don't need to take an entire week off just to do MSQ & normal modes. One of the main issues I highlighted in an earlier post, especially in midcore statics is when you have a divide in people wanting to take time watching cutscenes and enjoy the full story butting heads with people in the same static wanting to ultra zerg and have fun in savage in the first raid night; especially when that group may only raid 2-3 times a week and a couple may not be interested in spending 3/4 of their first raid night waiting for people to enjoy the story.

Tbh they could delay it by 3-4 days so people can enjoy the story and look around at new things instead of rushing to a small race

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Originally Posted by Sathona

Tbh they could delay it by 3-4 days so people can enjoy the story and look around at new things instead of rushing to a small race

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This.
A lot of people, included me, feel overwhelmed with the amount of content added in the patches. This is a consideration that the devs added.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

You are right that this competition isn't officially built into the game, but it is a tradition this community has adopted for a long time now and the devs have acknowledged it to the point where Naoki Yoshida even watches the livestreams himself to see how far everyone is coming along. You could consider it to be pretty much a fully established tradition at this point.

However, I agree that tomestones and by extension Crafted gear shouldn't be delayed - delaying Crafted gear + materials literally would defeat the point of the 1-week delay to begin with. Obtaining crafted gear shouldn't be part of the race, player skill, identifying mechanics and developing strategies should be.

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But that affects the balance of the fight. I don't care as I don't do Savage, but the devs might. They could make the fights harder to account for the extra gears, which may or may not be a good thing for some people.

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Ehhh...? I don't think so really, if you got a week of time you got good time in the evening to do MSQ, prep mats / gear, do a couple of EX runs even without having a week off.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

Not really? You just take the week off for savage a week later, and just spend the evenings after your work doing the story & normal modes in the preceeding week at a relaxing pace; you don't need to take an entire week off just to do MSQ & normal modes. One of the main issues I highlighted in an earlier post, especially in midcore statics is when you have a divide in people wanting to take time watching cutscenes and enjoy the full story butting heads with people in the same static wanting to ultra zerg and have fun in savage in the first raid night; especially when that group may only raid 2-3 times a week and a couple may not be interested in spending 3/4 of their first raid night waiting for people to enjoy the story.

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Nah, people tell me they don't want to be behind on story. Otherwise, it's again the same thing with having the Savage released at the same time. Do the raid story once without rushing and then prog for the rest of the week.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Well, one downside is people who are willing to schedule a week off work to do both story quests and savage raiding now has to take two weeks off instead.

Whereas the only con I can see is related to a race that is not part of the game. Otherwise, the waiting game can apply to both sides.

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People are only booking weeks off work for patch releases because there's so much content they're made to feel obligated to rush through and they literally can't do it and work at the same time.

There is absolutely no harm in delaying it by a week. You've waited 6 months already, 1 extra week is nothing, and when there's consistently a 1 week delay, then you've got the same period of time between savage tiers anyway.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

People are only booking weeks off work for patch releases because there's so much content they're made to feel obligated to rush through and they literally can't do it and work at the same time.

There is absolutely no harm in delaying it by a week. You've waited 6 months already, 1 extra week is nothing, and when there's consistently a 1 week delay, then you've got the same period of time between savage tiers anyway.

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I don't understand why in the same post where you acknowledge there is no harm in waiting you also say people feel obligated to rush. The reason why there is no harm in waiting is because there is no need to rush in the first place. Once released, the content will be there for you to do at your own preferred pace.

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Originally Posted by linayar

I don't understand why in the same post where you acknowledge there is no harm in waiting you also say people feel obligated to rush. The reason why there is no harm in waiting is because there is no need to rush in the first place. Once released, the content will be there for you to do at your own preferred pace.

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You've never progged savage have you?
Your static want a week 1 clear.
They want to spend as much time in savage the first week as possible, because if you don't clear all four fights that first week, then you're a week behind on the gear grind.
You can't have some people prog earlier than others or you screw up the loot for the entire static.

If you delay savage by 1 week, then you delay that first week of the gear grind too.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

You've never progged savage have you?
Your static want a week 1 clear.
They want to spend as much time in savage the first week as possible, because if you don't clear all four fights that first week, then you're a week behind on the gear grind.
You can't have some people prog earlier than others or you screw up the loot for the entire static.

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So you think a one time story raid+cutscene would be enough to delay a week's worth of prog? What kind of group is that that's good enough for a one week prog, but not if people watch cutscenes? That's truly living on the edge.

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If you delay savage by 1 week, then you delay that first week of the gear grind too.

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Exactly why I don't want Savage delayed because I think it will delay tomestone release, which is my reward for content I do.

A week is hardly the end of the world. Look at it more like getting the casual stuff (Normal, MSQ and Crafting) a week early, so you get a small taste of the bosses and story to get you hyped while you prep your crafted set, raid food, a big stack of pots and theorize on Savage mechanics with your static for that exciting raid day.

So is there a source on them saying 5.4 savage is delayed 1 week? Or is it in consideration for 6.X raid tiers and beyond?