FF14 is not made for hardcore players.

Troll post or not, it's not like they're wrong.

Square's focus is on casuals and new players. They have harder content because some people happen to like that stuff, but those players aren't necessarily their focus.

Like this game will always be casual focused through and through.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Actually: no.
The margin is set by the game and to be frank: is only relevant in ex/savage/ultimate anyway.
Do you defeat the encounter before it enrages? The group had an acceptable performance.

I see no point in pestering a healer that only heals in a dungeon. Yeah sure it'll take a few minutes longer, big whoop. I'll take a "heal only" green over a "Imma try to play like a pro and let you die/wipe 5x". Same applies to a tank. Give me a tank that pulls single groups over one I cannot keep alive every day of the week.
Some people feel confident playing at a high level, some don't. I don't like people trying to pull of things they cannot do (gaining experience in new content aside, at some time a tank/healer HAS to check out where the limits are), if content gets cleared either way.



From my experience parsing myself: FF-XIV raiders are every bit as hardcore as WoW raiders. The differences are a bit smaller in number but I get the same head scratch moments of "how the **** do these guys pull off these numbers?!" when looking at the top.

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I guess so my group is a little more chill so maybe thats why.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Actually: no.

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Actually, yes.

You give your example of being fine with a zero dps healer in a dungeon. I'm not. I will give advice and if it isn't taken I'll weigh my options there, either kicking or leaving if the bad in question continues to be a bad.

People set their own standards. If you'd like yours to literally just be completing an instance within the time limit, enrage or otherwise, that's totally up to you... but it doesn't mean that other people must, or even should, agree with you.

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Originally Posted by ClickOnce

Troll post or not, it's not like they're wrong.

Square's focus is on casuals and new players. They have harder content because some people happen to like that stuff, but those players aren't necessarily their focus.

Like this game will always be casual focused through and through.

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The point that people seem to take issue with is that he seems to make it appear like the whole Get Gud toxicity is rampant, and it is anything but that. Also these types of post often create more toxicity than they fix.

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Originally Posted by Nothv13

The point that people seem to take issue with is that he seems to make it appear like the whole Get Gud toxicity is rampant, and it is anything but that. Also these types of post often create more toxicity than they fix.

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It is rampant and I've showed five "git gud" messages in the OP.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

MMOs are built on being time eaters, the time it takes to improve enough to down content is part of that equation.

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Yoshi P explicitly said he did not want to make FF11, which is a well-known time eater. He wanted to make a modern MMO that takes into account the modern work-life balance. I very much do not think this particular MMO is designed to be a time eater. If this was FF11 I would agree with you. But FF14 is not designed to serve hardcore players.

You have time to research all of that but you don't have time to:
- train your rotation 5 minutes on any dummy you can find ? The more you hit your buttons, the less you will have to think about them.
- Try to find ways to react faster and "read" eatch fight easier (where do you have to watch ? How do make it easier?). For example i have tunnel vision, so i made the castbar bigger and changed many things in my hud.
- Asking yourself why did you die last time (that's what you should after eatch death even if it sound stupid a lot of players don't do that).
- Watch quickly a video of the last fight where you died and understand better what you have to do (it's not that long).
- Sometimes challenging yourself into learning something hard helps a lot, even if you don't have a lot of time it helps. Don't hesitate to comunicate with other players, pick something that is not insanely hard.
- even in easy fights, try to play as good a you can. Think about your past mistakes, try to resolve what you can etc..

Thoose are just ideas that i got in mind right now. Not all of them need to be done in more that 1 hour, taking 5-10 min eatch time you can play is even better than doing 8 hours in 1 day.
All of them helped me getting better at the game
With just that you can't tell me you are going to stay below extreme level forever.

Everyone knows you’re just a troll OP. Everyone knows you’re actively being obtuse and as obnoxious as possible. But the fact remains that tarnishing every single casual player with the same brush as yourself is just dumb. Learning how to play or over come “tankxiaty” is something people do. If you’re afraid to tank then play with friends

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

Everyone knows you’re just a troll OP. Everyone knows you’re actively being obtuse and as obnoxious as possible. But the fact remains that tarnishing every single casual player with the same brush as yourself is just dumb. Learning how to play or over come “tankxiaty” is something people do. If you’re afraid to tank then play with friends

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Or he could also not play \o/

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Originally Posted by Granyala

I see no point in pestering a healer that only heals in a dungeon. Yeah sure it'll take a few minutes longer, big whoop. I'll take a "heal only" green over a "Imma try to play like a pro and let you die/wipe 5x". Same applies to a tank. Give me a tank that pulls single groups over one I cannot keep alive every day of the week.

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Why do you feel it is acceptable for a healer or tank to steal 5-10 minutes from 3 other players when they can instead be considerate and not do that? What has given them that right and what makes their time so valuable that they may actively take it from the other players in the party?

Why is this selfishness acceptable to you?