Really hope next savage tier is delayed.

How I see it is, they would delay the new capped tomestones along with savage like they do with the 1st tier, that alone affects far more people negatively as they have to wait longer to get the new gear, than the positives that come to those who benefit from a small delay in savage.

This is actually something I'm sure the devs have already done the risk assessment themselves on, or we probably would've seen something by now.

Also this current PvP season came with the patch should anything and everything get delayed because people want to enjoy everything else at their pace, no, sometimes you have to pick your battles on what is important to you, getting to savage asap(which are the only people who suffer right now from this issue) or enjoy story mode then hop into savage after(my old raid group did this, people couldn't get on before raid times so decided that 1st raid night, which was always Tuesday, we would do story and everyone can watch at their own pace if we got to savage in raid time, yay, if not we go in starting next raid night and generally better strategies as well)

No one is forced to rush anything so... No.

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You're assuming that people participating in the world-first race would be supportive of a delay, which in my experience generally isn't the case.

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I'm talking about the ones that are. You're making assumptions about my argument.

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Also the constant inclusion of (rofl) makes it seem like you have some kind of personal issue with high-end players, and severely undermines whatever point you're trying to make.

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{That's too bad.}
read: I don't care.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I'm talking about the ones that are. You're making assumptions about my argument.


{That's too bad.}
read: I don't care.

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My dude, I (think) I agree with you on whether to delay savage or not, but you are kinda coming off like a douchebag.

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My dude, I (think) I agree with you on whether to delay savage or not, but you are kinda coming off like a douchebag.

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Read the last two lines of my previous post again if you want my response.

I have always been a serial cutscene skipper. That is until lately when I made an alt and rewatched the whole of FF14 from level 1-80. So my solution (albeit not really Something I’m suggesting as a global solution) was to make a second character. Thus on patch day I rushed through the story and such, got myself raid ready, did all my crafting. Then when I have more time (work, family life etc permitting) is go back and enjoy the story at my leisure. I agree with the OP. Those who want to raid or are in a static and yet have busy work lives do feel compelled and more rushed into skipping. You don’t need to be in a world first race, there’s people who have statics because that’s what suits their life styles.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

That's the thing though.
NM gear and crafted gear become obsolete(unless you're rich enough to pentameld) because savage is released same day. Crafters have to rush get the new mats for their group and everything ready its quite hectic, it totally kicks anybody not rich as well to even buy the crafted gear. Which can be fixed if savage was delayed 2 weeks so they can at least have some normal mode pieces as an alternative to the crafted gear they can't afford. There are no downsides waiting at least two weeks for savage.
It gives everybody an equal amount of time to prepare.
Also they wouldn't have to delay the tomestones? you know we get 2 new dungeons every even patch...wait..I forget. I hardly do dungeon.

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You talk about wanting to not make NM and crafted gears obsolete, but want to make tomestone gears available before Savage? That would make them even more obsolete and that's why SE won't do that.

In fact, SE probably would also delay crafted gears if they also delay Savage. So it's not just tomestone gears being affected.

Really, the solution is already available: don't rush. And if you'd rather get NM gears instead of going full set of crafted gears, then do that.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

We're talking about an issue that directly concerns the world-first race; Of course people with direct experience with the matter are going to have more valuable opinions.

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Direct experience means less in this case because it affects people outside of that experience, especially since the issue is a player-created problem.

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Originally Posted by linayar

You talk about wanting to not make NM and crafted gears obsolete, but want to make tomestone gears available before Savage? That would make them even more obsolete and that's why SE won't do that.

In fact, SE probably would also delay crafted gears if they also delay Savage. So it's not just tomestone gears being affected.

Really, the solution is already available: don't rush. And if you'd rather get NM gears instead of going full set of crafted gears, then do that.

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Not really. Because sometimes crafted pentameld is better than a non upgraded piece from tome and not the mention you can only buy like 1 piece in 2 weeks...or two? but if you buy two it's most likely acc which you're not gonna do because crafted acc is way better if you 5 sloted.
Also with savage, you can get fulled decked out in the highest ilv (granted if your static feeds you.)
Though overall, yeah guess it IS probably best if the tomes came in the savage patch if it does get delay to avoid being too geared for the first fight (not that it will carry you)

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Not really. Because sometimes crafted pentameld is better than a non upgraded piece from tome and not the mention you can only buy like 1 piece in 2 weeks...or two? but if you buy two it's most likely acc which you're not gonna do because crafted acc is way better if you 5 sloted.
Also with savage, you can get fulled decked out in the highest ilv (granted if your static feeds you.)

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This just shows that a static already has the freedom to do what it needs to without having to delay Savage.

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Though overall, yeah guess it IS probably best if the tomes came in the savage patch if it does get delay to avoid being too geared for the first fight (not that it will carry you)

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And that's why there is value to not delaying Savage.