This game needs Savage solo content and Savage 4 player.

The 29th Masked Carnivale is kinda what you're asking for, but it's BLU only (and you need certain spells to make things easier/clearable).

Rathalos Extreme (sync'd) is probably the closest we've gotten, but he's only hard because of the 3 KO count. Pharos Sirius (before it was nerfed) is probably a close second. I recommend running that dungeon with minimum ilevel turned on :)

I honestly think that it's because Pharos Sirius was nerfed (which was because people found it too hard and would leave it immediately if they got it in Roulette. Wipes were frequent on the first boss alone) is why we won't get any difficult 4-man content.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I honestly think that it's because Pharos Sirius was nerfed (which was because people found it too hard and would leave it immediately if they got it in Roulette. Wipes were frequent on the first boss alone) is why we won't get any difficult 4-man content.

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Or... They could just not put it in roulettes. Have it be something you que for, like Rathalos or a deep dungeon.

Well Rathalos EX you can still get in Mentor Roulette, much like with other EX Trials. Guess it just depends on how hard you want the fights to be. If actually Savage levels, then yeah. Keep it out of Roulettes... but then I wish SE would go back to their 2.1 Pharos Sirius days and just make the playbase adjust to being better so they can clear. We're level 80 now, c'mon.

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Originally Posted by ClickOnce

Don't see Square making the new, current tier have those versions giving out the best gear or other good items.

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It doesn't need to fit into progression. In fact, I'd rather it didn't.
Rathalos and Deep dungeons don't/didn't help with progression, and people still ran those for fun.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

It doesn't need to fit into progression. In fact, I'd rather it didn't.
Rathalos and Deep dungeons don't/didn't help with progression, and people still ran those for fun.

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I'd personally prefer it be tied to progression, so it can function as an endgame of sorts. As people have mentioned, the game already has a ton of gimmicky stuff of no real consequence you can do solo or in smaller groups that could be considered challenging.

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I'd personally prefer it be tied to progression,

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Totes fair. I just feel the prog balance is in a good spot now and don't wanna disrupt it.
Honestly, as long as they add it I'm happy, no matter how it's implemented.

They mentioned that there'd be some challenging solo fights in the new Eureka-esque instance releasing in 5.35

at the very least end game needs 1 tank and 1 healer only things to do outside pointless dungeons

Clemency would absolutely need to be adjusted if Savage solo content were to be introduced.

As it is now you'd be massively gimping yourself if you were to run said hypothetical content as any class other than PLD due to their utterly unmatched potential self-sustain.

Alternatively SE could develop savage content tailored to each JOB ala The Masked Carnivale, but that would require a tremendous amount of resources to develop for content that the majority of the playerbase would likely not even run once.

If tweaking the skill were up to me I'd just make it so that you can longer target yourself with Clemency.
Unless you're soloing you should pretty much never cast Clemency on yourself anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tranquilmelody7

Clemency would absolutely need to be adjusted if Savage solo content were to be introduced.

As it is now you'd be massively gimping yourself if you were to run said hypothetical content as any class other than PLD due to their utterly unmatched potential self-sustain.

Alternatively SE could develop savage content tailored to each JOB ala The Masked Carnivale, but that would require a tremendous amount of resources to develop for content that the majority of the playerbase would likely not even run once.

If tweaking the skill were up to me I'd just make it so that you can longer target yourself with Clemency.
Unless you're soloing you should pretty much never cast Clemency on yourself anyway.

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Wouldn't necessarily need to be by class, just role. Tune it so if a paladin is spamming clemency, they won't do enough damage to complete the solo activity. Or just put a healing dampener debuff.