This game needs way more wards!

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Originally Posted by Venur

I disagree on that one, instanced housing get boring really fast as it feel pointless. Well it feels like playing the sims all alone in your house. Your action are meaningless since nobody will be impacted.

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Considering this point of view, it is valid only for FCs housing since it is a shared housing.

Interiors are instancied already.

Having the feeling to be in a dormitory city is not exactly what I call a neighborood feeling. This said by someone who owned two mansions. I don't miss the neighborood, I miss the gardening and the space I had.

Even thought they will open Ishgard one day or another, I'm not sure to take any house since I would prefer an instancied housing I'm sure to keep and where I can put all the collections I can already craft rather than have a fake show off effect, a dormitory city feeling and the risk to lose everything I crafted.

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Originally Posted by Eldevern

Please read me properly, we don't ask, AGAIN, to get ride on the system. They could, AGAIN, just, at least, upgrade apartments. Currently, there are people who monopolize wards for some kind of show off effect that only ends to be a waste or server ressources since they don't even use the houses. Adding wards doesn't solve the problem from that point of vue. Upgrading apartements would allow to avoid the fake "show off effect" and would upgrade apartements only people who really want something bigger for their collections.

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If entire FC buys a house its their own decision on how they play their own accounts, each one member of certain FC is an individual player just like you, paying sub like everyone else and is not restricted to anything. Maybe they have just planned it all to have all their houses in the same ward, idk whats a problem with it?

If someone is not using their house then there is already a solution and i wrote it in my previous comment that SE could simply just implement a monthly tax and thats basically it.

We dont need instanced housing, if someone wants to buy a house he will sooner or later.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

If entire FC buys a house its their own decision on how they play their own accounts, each one member of certain FC is an individual player just like you, paying sub like everyone else and is not restricted to anything. Maybe they have just planned it all to have all their houses in the same ward, idk whats a problem with it?

If someone is not using their house then there is already a solution and i wrote it in my previous comment that SE could simply just implement a monthly tax and thats basically it.

We dont need instanced housing, if someone wants to buy a house he will sooner or later.

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You... just don't get it. Never mind.

Let me try to explain what Eldevern means since we have on our Server also a FC thats owns nearly a full ward since years. It was reportet multiple times allready but SE donst care at all. The thing is that they abouse the system in a way thats not mentioned in the terms of service. The FCs use all the same Tag so if you look at the Names at the Ward you will see everywhere the same Name. The Full FC Name consists of the same name and a number after that (like 01, 02, 03 etc). When you visit the houses they are all empty except the Mainhouse, but their all have a full upgraded workshop. Each FC is owned by a member or twink of the Main FC, if you look at the list each of these FCs has only 1 or 2 members. But everything these workshops produce goes to the main FC (that point is just an assumption but it would make sense). This way we have on our server one FC that owns around 20 workshop witch 80 subs and airships in total. If this is not unfair, than i dont know. Also the houses of these FC will not get demolished because the are visited regulary by their owners.

Btw. i think a good solution would be a combination of some suggestions here. Instead of having XX wards each housing zone should have just 1, leave the current design of these zones how it is but start with the instancing at the entrace of the plots and not with the house. Each plot should have multible instances (maybe in a simmilar way like appartments are handled) and to ensure that you see something if you walk by a plot i would suggest to show to show allways one of these instaces that exsist at the plot. They could but be random chosen or chycled by a fixed amount of time, like every 12 hours or day the plot that is shown changes. That would also help to make these zone feeling more lively again. Right now the players are to mutch split up between all these exsiting wards, so their cant be a real neighbourhood feeling because you will most times never meed enough people on the street.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

The housing wards are the deadest zones in the game. Thing is the inside of the house is instanced. It's not like you can be walking along and see people through the window, which I'm sure people would complain about if that were possible. Iirc Wildstar gave you a big plot of land in your own instance, but you also had neighboring plots. SWTOR housing is instanced but it feels much less claustrophobic. It would be cool to have your own floating island in the Sea of Clouds.

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XIV's housing just bums me out. Honestly, this game should not have limited housing. I'd love for them to introduce proper-instanced housing that is available to everyone. Not just an apartment-like instance, but something with a nice view, decent yard, house you can just walk right into without having to zone (again). Make it feel open and airy. As you mentioned, most wards are incredibly dead and empty. It was a nice idea, but it's just not something that seems to work that well in XIV.


Wildstar had amazing housing! It was fully instanced, but everyone got their own island to themselves - and early on in the game as well. They later added a community feature where 5 players could all live together in one instance - each still with their individual plots, but on one giant island. You could tweak so much with their housing, and some people were just insanely creative. I loved visiting the various islands to see what people could come up with. Sadly, I got into the game far too late (never reached max level before they shut it down). Tis a regret of mine :(

I think my own personal favorite for housing is Archeage. It's out in the open world, and they have such a huge variety of different homes and buildings you can choose from. They have a basic homes, fancy gilded homes, farm houses, farm land, plazas, gigantic beanstalks, treehouses, mansions, and other things. It makes for rather unique looking housing areas (which are scattered all over the place). Since it's all out in the open, your windows and doors open up into what's outside and you don't have that awful boxed in feel. The downside there is that it is finite space, so you may not always be able to get as much land as you want right off the bat (can always wait for demos or buy from other people though). I miss the housing quite a bit D:

BDO also has an interesting take on housing. They have phased housing (I believe that's the term). It's a bit like the apartments in XIV where everyone just uses the same entrance, but there is no cap to how many people can 'own' the same location. They have available rooms and houses scattered throughout towns and in the outskirts as well. You can rent as many as you like, as long as you have enough contribution points to do so. Also, you can still see the world outside your window so again, so it helps a little bit with that closed-in feeling you can get in some games. TO ME, it still felt a bit boxed in, but I really enjoyed how much flexibility it gives you.

The only other game I've played with housing was XI. But even there, every player got their own mog-house (apartment type instance) that could be expanded to add a second story, patio, and had a large garden instance. Compared to games now, it's definitely lacking in some spots, but I was always nice to see them expand it over the years.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

I think their should be way more wards.

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While I do agree there should be more wards to accommodate players, that doesn't solve an huge underlying issue with housing: the fact that multiple individuals own multiple houses on various worlds on alt characters. One player can own a housing portfolio consisting of multiple plots and can own half/full wards. It's not a lack of wards; it's player greed and it's unfair to the rest of community. One person does not need to own 15 houses in this game. If these players let go of these plots, more would have access to this feature.

There is a plot available in the Goblet ward 8. There are already people waiting for the timer to expire though so good luck.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

There is a plot available in the Goblet ward 8. There are already people waiting for the timer to expire though so good luck.

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Thank you, after 9h or more of trying to get it all the time in the morning came some person a by and snitched it away right in front of me. This long rdm timer thing is surly one of the worst things ingame
Sometimes i realy hate this game.^^

The housing system need a rework.

Them adding more wards is just a Band-Aid solution.

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Originally Posted by Venur

I disagree on that one, instanced housing get boring really fast as it feel pointless. Well it feels like playing the sims all alone in your house. Your action are meaningless since nobody will be impacted.

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I disagree, it actually creates a hub where everyone stands outside, people talk and advertise their houses, and visit others.

House parties were a huge thing in Runescape that had instance houses, simply for this reason (and FF14 houses are waaaaay better-looking than Runescape ones).
You could spend hours just chatting to people, and visiting all the different houses.
(I had mine at Rimmington, as it's pretty easy to get to, and was in a convenient place... But it's been too long for me to remember why it was convenient there.... Probably farming)
So instance housing might actually be good for this game, who knows (saying this as a current home-owner in FF14).