Why does SMN have Physick?

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Originally Posted by Silverquick

This is actually a long story, and all of it has to do with SCH not necessarily SMN.

First of all, understand that SCH does not really have any direct heals other than Physick. The SCH's heals are all shields/pre-heals like Adlo/Galvanize and Succor. Its got a couple of direct heals that are stronger... but they're Aetherflow abilities so limited use. Their version of Egi Assaults are things like Regen.

SCH isn't really a strong healer, its a preventer. So boosting SMN Physick would in essence give him similar healing power to an SCH.

Why is this important...

Well back in the day, SCH used to have similar DoT power to the SMN. They used to have both Bio and Miasma... and Bane. They nerfed it and removed it to where the SCH only has Bio now and no Bane to spread it to other targets. Which I thought was stupid, SCH is not as strong of a healer, meaning they had to focus more attention on Healing than WHM.... and previously you'd play SCH by throwing out your DoTs and then Bane it out to other targets... then just focus your attention on healing.

Which of course was the point. SCH was supposed to be like that precisely because its healing ability was not as good as WHM.

So this also swings both ways. SCH was stripped of its DoT abilities... and SMN just left with a healing spell that is completely worthless post 50th. This was their attempt to "split" the two. It was in my opinion dumb and hurt SCH a lot more than SMN.

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I approach the classes/jobs from a lore-first perspective (which isn't to say that balance isn't important, but I'll leave the technical stuff to the players who excel in that area), so this attempt to split SCH and SMN doesn't sit well with me at all. Having only picked up these jobs quite recently, I don't have the history with how they have evolved/devolved over successive patches the way you guys do, I only know that I was shocked when I unlocked the jobs and found that so little ACN kit carried over into SCH, and that things like Energy drain worked completely differently between the two, etc. Then I discovered that there used to be a lot more carryover between the two, and thought "well, that makes a lot more sense than what we have now."

I particularly 'miss' the opportunity to cast more DoTs as a SCH, because this would make thematic sense given the origins of SCH, and give you something to do other than constantly casting ruin spam. Conversely, I'd either like to see Physick scale off INT, or perhaps be replaced with Adloquium to make up for the poor healing potency (though I quite like Titan's shield, so this would not be my preferred option).

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Originally Posted by purgatori

or perhaps be replaced with Adloquium to make up for the poor healing potency (though I quite like Titan's shield, so this would not be my preferred option).

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That would make no sense because Adloquium is a Scholar-exclusive ability. Also the last thing we need is people complaining that Summoner is getting too many defensive tools which will persuade the devs nerf, or worse rework the job again.

It's been crap since 2.0 and should have been gone or have a trait that allows it to scale off of Int a long time ago.

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Back when you could heal your own pet via Sustain, they could have had a trait that turned Physic into sustain. But small, indie company etc.

Always loved the excuse of "because it comes from ACN so SMN HAS to get it." What about all the ACN moves SCH misses out on? Seems kind of hypocritical that SMN HAS to have all of ACN's moves, including 1 that is literally useless, but the only thing SCH gets is a heal that is overshadowed as soon as they get adlo and lustrate, a raise, and bio.

Once upon a time you could actually strike a balance between damage and healing. Buffs could be made to crit heal for almost 6000, while still being useful in the dps department. Summoner was good then. And then stormblood happened, and everyone became a cookie cutter and builds that took priceless calculations and melding of materia was killed off by role actions. RIP Summoner

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

SMN comes from arcanist which has Physick in it's kit before job changing. As far as current times, no you won't ever be using it since it's a very weak heal and you'll be leaving that to the healer as you DPS.

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Soooo... Scholar forgets useful skills from ACN, but Summoner remembers useless skills from ACN?
Which one was supposed to be scholarly again??? /thinks