So Healing is stressful uhuh yup mhmm!

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Originally Posted by althenawhm

I dont know, I still get at least a dozen holy in for each pack of monsters.

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My bf tanked wall to wall and I just used lilies and regen while spamming holy and assize. I'd dare say the dungeons are easier than HW's. It's just more of the same to me, I feel like a lot of healer just don't know what it's like to not be ilvl synced or have forgotten yet again.

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Originally Posted by Knoahl

My bf tanked wall to wall and I just used lilies and regen while spamming holy and assize. I'd dare say the dungeons are easier than HW's. It's just more of the same to me, I feel like a lot of healer just don't know what it's like to not be ilvl synced or have forgotten yet again.

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This is/was probably my issue, since I had not done my usual gear grind in Stormblood due to burnout issues, so I had a bit of shock at just how fast the tanks were falling due to the damage. I hadn't checked the tanks gear, though. It's still weird, but I've gotten more used to the healing aspect of things. I feel like I currently have to relearn how to DPS while healing, though, which is interesting. MP can be an issue if I am not paying close enough attention.

Any dungeon is more difficult when tanks refuse to use their def CD's and DPS refuse to use their self heals.

Then you get those magic runs where both happen and you remember that DPSing as a healer largely sucks so you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

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Originally Posted by MPNZ

Um, everyone wanted WHM to improve on the forums. Everyone wanted WHM to be viable past progression in the forums. And, you are totally projecting. So, cut it out, pls.

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And as soon as we have something, people come crying for it again. Yeah, I see how you want us to improve. Decide already. Do you want WHM to be viable, or do you want to have everything it got with your extras and then want to laugh? Because I see the latter in posts like the one I quoted above. And that's been the case ever since ARR.

"We need AoE heals on par with WHM, we need aggro reduce like WHM, we need a Cure III equivalent like WHM"
Stop crying for everything WHM has and finally demand diversity instead. Stop digging away the ground under our feet and accept equality (not that we actually have that...).

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

And as soon as we have something, people come crying for it again. Yeah, I see how you want us to improve. Decide already. Do you want WHM to be viable, or do you want to have everything it got with your extras and then want to laugh? Because I see the latter in posts like the one I quoted above. And that's been the case ever since ARR.

"We need AoE heals on par with WHM, we need aggro reduce like WHM, we need a Cure III equivalent like WHM"
Stop crying for everything WHM has and finally demand diversity instead. Stop digging away the ground under our feet and accept equality (not that we actually have that...).

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Nobody is saying that they need/want heals like WHM lmao. Absolutely no one. You don't even have AST leveled enough to even comprehend the issues the class has as of right now lol. I don't think you understand how bad the other two healers have it to where some of us want to stick our heads in ovens because SE just stripped AST/SCH of their core identities + introduced a crap mechanic (Play). I find some of the stuff you say on this thread monkaHmm worthy. Such as; people wanting SCH/AST to be more "op" than WHM (no we just want to be able to play the class without necking ourselves). WHM has always been uncontested, NUMERO UNO, THE BEST, at raw healing. It honestly just sounds like you've got an inferiority complex regarding this whole situation between AST + SCH vs. WHM. If you honestly think that WHM has ever had issues with MP and it was only recently fixed with 5.0, you're part of the population that is overly dependent on Cure III (:

Thanks for coming to my TED talk!

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Originally Posted by Alynn

Nobody is saying that they need/want heals like WHM lmao. Absolutely no one. You don't even have AST leveled enough to even comprehend the issues the class has as of right now lol. I don't think you understand how bad the other two healers have it to where some of us want to stick our heads in ovens because SE just stripped AST/SCH of their core identities + introduced a crap mechanic (Play). I find some of the stuff you say on this thread monkaHmm worthy. Such as; people wanting SCH/AST to be more "op" than WHM (no we just want to be able to play the class without necking ourselves). WHM has always been uncontested, NUMERO UNO, THE BEST, at raw healing. It honestly just sounds like you've got an inferiority complex regarding this whole situation between AST + SCH vs. WHM. If you honestly think that WHM has ever had issues with MP and it was only recently fixed with 5.0, you're part of the population that is overly dependent on Cure III (:

Thanks for coming to my TED talk!

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WHM has been neglected for years, this is a revenge story.

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Originally Posted by Ftail

WHM has been neglected for years, this is a revenge story.

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No. also, yes it has, but it's not the player's fault. I, as a main SCH, always hoped that the dev would "fix" WHM. All the healer i know are the same.
Don't blame use. Blame the devs.

Yep healer is stressful.. but I think the tank is more stressful xD

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Originally Posted by Alynn

Nobody is saying that they need/want heals like WHM lmao. Absolutely no one. You don't even have AST leveled enough to even comprehend the issues the class has as of right now lol. I don't think you understand how bad the other two healers have it to where some of us want to stick our heads in ovens because SE just stripped AST/SCH of their core identities + introduced a crap mechanic (Play). I find some of the stuff you say on this thread monkaHmm worthy. Such as; people wanting SCH/AST to be more "op" than WHM (no we just want to be able to play the class without necking ourselves). WHM has always been uncontested, NUMERO UNO, THE BEST, at raw healing. It honestly just sounds like you've got an inferiority complex regarding this whole situation between AST + SCH vs. WHM. If you honestly think that WHM has ever had issues with MP and it was only recently fixed with 5.0, you're part of the population that is overly dependent on Cure III (:

Thanks for coming to my TED talk!

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Wow, I would love to tell you what I think you are, but that would get me banned unfortunately. So let's see.
I'm not talking about a time span of a few months, or even two years. I'm talking about the history of WHM ever since 2.0. Since back then, people demanded to get what WHM had, or better stuff. In ARR, SCHs wanted a big AoE heal, some even calling for one far superior to even Cure III. In HW, people wanted the range of Medica II, as well as Assize; they didn't even bother to look at WHM's deficits, which was MP management and lack of raid utility (oh, guess what, the latter still wasn't addressed at all!). In StB, they wanted an equivalent of Thin Air, which was the first time EVER WHM didn't need outside support to keep going because they finally weren't MP starved anymore. It didn't help us of course, because it was the only thing we got. Everything else was meh or even horrible (Hello, Lily System and especially Secret of the Lily II).

You don't get WHM at all, either. You obviously got no clue what the job went through over the years, you have no clue what it was in the past, you got no clue what its problems are. It has been surpassed in raw healing by SCH and also AST years ago. Oh, so it can spam big AoE heals? What the f*ck is that worth when it's not needed? Right, nothing. Also, did you even look at some of the stuff you got in 4.0 as AST? Did you see what Earthly Star was? Did you see what buffs you got over the span of the expansion, to the point were WHM got obsolete yet again, like at the end of 3.0 (though, thankfully, not quite as horribly as back then...).

Oh, so you suffered from getting stuff taken from you? Don't make me LAUGH. WHM lost its identity when AST came out, since AST was a very, VERY bad and lazy copy-paste job of it when it got introduced, and continues to be a copycat for a big part. You lost some skills? WHM lost about half their skill bar in StB to the job system/had stuff erased permanently.

You are so ignorant it hurts. As Ftail said, WHM got neglected for so long, even outright laughed at by the devs, that it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that we are at the end of our line by now... at least if you had a single clue of what you are talking about. Come back to me when you actually know the history behind the job. Come back to me when you know what WHM had been once.
Grow up.

I main as an Astro, and honestly I like that healing is a bit more challenging again. Granted the class has been simplified in a way, I love that all the cards actually DO something; it makes me feel like I am actually contributing more than just heals and weak DPS. Like we are actually supporting the party, rather than just fading into the background = . = There will always be those that don't appreciate the hard work it can be especially when you got a DPS ignoring ALL mechanics and pulling all sorts of agro... but man did I miss those instant queues for healers