Using autism and cancer in comments and as a derogatory term...

People use these terms across all kinds of games, not just this one. If it bothers you that much, just blacklist them.

Wait so OP jukped data centers? Please tell me he ain't on Aether now, sounds like a player I rather wouldn't have to deal with for any activity.

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Originally Posted by JustJon

Just like to point out I'm not everyone and not offended, I am displeased as I keep telling people here. If I was wholeheartedly offended I most certainly would of reported them, this is not only a post on my morals it is a post on how I feel others might well be displeased too.

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You sound more than displeased, you wouldn't leave your fc, hide from them, then go to the forums and make a thread if that was all. I read your posts as being offended.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Just how the internet is these days, it's best to wear a tougher skin otherwise it's going to eat you alive and have you sobbing at memes. Ain't the best solution but better than the sobbing alternative.

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This. I've seen people who were essentially coddled through life break down and freak out over general slang and memes. Gotta apply Stoneskin... oh wait.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

Words only mean stuff because we attribute meanings to them. Without that, they're merely pixels on a screen, sounds resonating from vocal chords, etc.

With the invention of the internet, every word in existence has a "normal meaning" and an "internet meaning".

When they say something about cancer, they don't mean cells mutated to have uncontrolled cell division.

When they say something about autism, they don't mean the neurological condition by the same name.

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While that's definitely true, that doesn't mean that it's okay.

Words do have meanings because we give them meaning - and that means that if those words are used one way in one context, it affects the other context.

If "autistic" becomes a meaningless insult thrown at anyone you don't like, that shifts the implications of a genuine diagnosis. It's not just "you have this condition", it becomes "you have this condition which is referred to by a term normally used to call you stupid or a horrible person".

And it changes how willing someone might be to admit that they have autism - online or otherwise - just as it's losing its stigma and becoming more of a stated fact.

As for "cancer", I think using that term for anything unenjoyable downplays what I understand to be a really horrendous experience (that I thankfully have not been through). It equates putting up with an annoying person for 20 minutes to a truly awful, life-changing illness.

I don't think it's right to use these terms when there are plenty of other 'generic' words for a bad experience that you could use instead. Call it terrible. Call it unbearable. Just don't take words that have a real, specific, unrelated meaning and twist them into becoming generic negative words.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

People complaining about a robot named Queen.
People complaining about not having both genders in both races.
People complaining about the height, hairstyle and appearance of races they still haven't completely seen.
People complaining about absolutely whatever reason.
And people complaining about a macro.

Welcome to the internet!

Now can we get 5.0 so people stop making useless threads, thanks.

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I feel like this is a very different type of complaint to the "gameplay details" that people are arguing over.

It's something that's been on my mind as well, as I've noticed people in a few places using "cancerous" to describe something unenjoyable. Maybe it's a shift in language, but it's not one that I'm comfortable with at all.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

I could maybe understand the autism complaint, but the OP never actually gave an example of that, so I'm left with the "cancer" comments.

Cancer is supposed to be the safe option. How do you get offended DISPLEASED about that? This smells like another one of those classic troll posts, but yet here we are at page 5 already.

what.

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As I've written above, it doesn't seem right (at least to me) to be appropriating the term as a general insult. There are other things you can say instead.

I think "cancerous" can an entirely appropriate term.
It's referring to something as insidiously damaging, malignant and destructive. It's a metaphor.

Something like "your DPS gave me cancer" is obviously childish and asinine, but an entirely viable use for it could be something like "RMT is cancerous for the economy"

There's a huge gap between something "not feeling right" and being regarded as "offensive".
You might not think it 'feels right', but please don't instigate a movement against it's use, as nobody deserves to be banned for something so trivial, and you know that's where this will lead.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

As I've written above, it doesn't seem right (at least to me) to be appropriating the term as a general insult.

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I disagree. No one can identify as cancer, and therefore it's fine. I bet the majority of people that have gone through cancer are also perfectly fine with the comments. We all love a little hyperbole from time to time, and in the great scheme of possible insults "Cancer" is right up there with one of the safest possible options to use.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Personally, I tend to use "garbage" when referring to bad DPS. Golly, I hope I don't DISPLEASE any garbagemen, or Oscar the Grouch.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

While that's definitely true, that doesn't mean that it's okay.

Words do have meanings because we give them meaning - and that means that if those words are used one way in one context, it affects the other context.

If "autistic" becomes a meaningless insult thrown at anyone you don't like, that shifts the implications of a genuine diagnosis. It's not just "you have this condition", it becomes "you have this condition which is referred to by a term normally used to call you stupid or a horrible person".

And it changes how willing someone might be to admit that they have autism - online or otherwise - just as it's losing its stigma and becoming more of a stated fact.

As for "cancer", I think using that term for anything unenjoyable downplays what I understand to be a really horrendous experience (that I thankfully have not been through). It equates putting up with an annoying person for 20 minutes to a truly awful, life-changing illness.

I don't think it's right to use these terms when there are plenty of other 'generic' words for a bad experience that you could use instead. Call it terrible. Call it unbearable. Just don't take words that have a real, specific, unrelated meaning and twist them into becoming generic negative words.

I feel like this is a very different type of complaint to the "gameplay details" that people are arguing over.

It's something that's been on my mind as well, as I've noticed people in a few places using "cancerous" to describe something unenjoyable. Maybe it's a shift in language, but it's not one that I'm comfortable with at all.

As I've written above, it doesn't seem right (at least to me) to be appropriating the term as a general insult. There are other things you can say instead.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

There's a huge gap between something "not feeling right" and being regarded as "offensive".
You might not think it 'feels right', but please don't instigate a movement against it's use, as nobody deserves to be banned for something so trivial, and you know that's where this will lead.

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Did I say anything about getting people banned over it?

I wouldn't report someone for language like that. I just don't think it's a way that people should be shifting the meaning of words.

People forgetting its a T for Teen game.

Theres kids playing, kids are dumb. High schoolers are edgelords extreme and you cannot control them online as you are not their parent. If you want to be safe, turn off the chat, play on JP, or go to an M for Mature online game where the -hopefully- 18+ community will be more sensitive.