Unbelievable Rudeness!

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Love how people in here are saying "well you should teach her to grow thick skin"

Are you all missing the fact he said she was a shy 13 year old girl? and you're also assuming he hasn't already told her about the bullies. Just telling her isn't automatically gonna make her immune to getting their feeling hurt.

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I've got to agree with you there.
It's a shame what happened.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Stating the obvious.

Doesn't really change the fact people need stop being A**Holes and you telling a 13 year old kid to "grow a thick skin" just makes you come off as someone with a lack of empathy.
Not to offend you of course, I don't know you, but just calling it how I see it or....read it.

If you were in his shoes and someone mouthed off to your kid who you know is very shy and timid, I'm sure in hell you would come on these fourms and vent to. I know I would.

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Except I wouldn't. I don't come to the forums to throw tantrums about things that are
1. In my control or
2. Out of my control.

I'm only on the forums really because it's an endless source of amusement from things like this and many other topics that get created on a daily basis.

Plus let me remind you, that you're only hearing one side of the story at any given time. "Why would people lie?" To rally a response for whatever reason. Did the person really get any specifically at the girl? Or were they just mounting a general disbelief they wiped on whatever? Did it ever really happen? Who knows. Was it really just one wipe and not two or three because of the same exact thing? We weren't there.

did she play heal? tank? try play a class that have small responsibility like dps, especially for someone with age of 13 i doubt she can take the "finger blaming" feel when it come to stuff like that, especially if she is a sensitive person.

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Nah If someone else is being a dick to someone in a trail/dungeon I'm in Im going to speak up

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if it you maybe yes, but we are talking about 13 years old daughter here, and op already told us that IT IS partially her fault so.... blame? yes, but maybe the blaming is a bit excessive in this case. In mmo games that kind of attitude is consider normal though, either she face reality and face it like a real man (girl) or take a break from mmo and play singleplayer games first, its the only choice i can see.

look at the bright side, consider it a life experience, if she can get behind it she can develop a strong will and it will be useful in the future later when she start going to be working in real life.

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Originally Posted by Fredco191

This is just something she’ll have to get used to.

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This is what frustrates me about the Internet. Harassment is accepted as normal and people who don't like it are told to either get thicker skin or stay off the Internet as if they are the problem and the one who needs to change rather than the offender. I tried to speak up against some of the nasty people in eureka chat a few times but nobody else backed me up.

I would love for people to be held responsible for their online trash talk and punished in the same way you'd be punished for harassing people out on the street. Any time you are reported for saying sick unacceptable things or attacking people on services like Facebook and FFXIV, those service providers can send details of what you did to some central Internet police thing which builds a profile on all of your cyber misdemeanours and has the power to temp block you from the Internet altogether. Weed out all of the keyboard warriors. If you want freedom of expressing insults then that can happen on some darkweb, not the normal Internet.

Sorry your daughter had to experience this, hope she comes back to the game and u and her continue to play as a family.

If you and her are on goblin server or crystal data center then u guys are welcome to join me, hell I don't care if she screws up I'll just raise her or ignore it till she gets it right, I only kick people if there being a dick, some one scewing up is fine cause trial and error no matter how many times is the best way to learn.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

This is what frustrates me about the Internet. Harassment is accepted as normal and people who don't like it are told to either get thicker skin or stay off the Internet as if they are the problem and the one who needs to change rather than the offender. I tried to speak up against some of the nasty people in eureka chat a few times but nobody else backed me up.

I would love for people to be held responsible for their online trash talk and punished in the same way you'd be punished for harassing people out on the street. Any time you are reported for saying sick unacceptable things or attacking people on services like Facebook and FFXIV, those service providers can send details of what you did to some central Internet police thing which builds a profile on all of your cyber misdemeanours and has the power to temp block you from the Internet altogether. Weed out all of the keyboard warriors. If you want freedom of expressing insults then that can happen on some darkweb, not the normal Internet.

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Yeah its a real shame.
I think this is why SE double down on what can be reported, being behind a screen just brings out the worst in people when they can be anonymous.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

This is what frustrates me about the Internet. Harassment is accepted as normal and people who don't like it are told to either get thicker skin or stay off the Internet as if they are the problem and the one who needs to change rather than the offender. I tried to speak up against some of the nasty people in eureka chat a few times but nobody else backed me up.

I would love for people to be held responsible for their online trash talk and punished in the same way you'd be punished for harassing people out on the street. Any time you are reported for saying sick unacceptable things or attacking people on services like Facebook and FFXIV, those service providers can send details of what you did to some central Internet police thing which builds a profile on all of your cyber misdemeanours and has the power to temp block you from the Internet altogether. Weed out all of the keyboard warriors. If you want freedom of expressing insults then that can happen on some darkweb, not the normal Internet.

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Is not "accepted" but come on .. pretty much on any online forums/games you can /blacklist /ignore /block /report etc until it becomes something like them logging onto other characters/accounts to keep doing it to you, then is nothing to yell about.

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Originally Posted by gumas

did she play heal? tank? try play a class that have small responsibility like dps, especially for someone with age of 13 i doubt she can take the "finger blaming" feel when it come to stuff like that, especially if she is a sensitive person.



if it you maybe yes, but we are talking about 13 years old daughter here, and op already told us that IT IS partially her fault so.... blame? yes, but maybe the blaming is a bit excessive in this case. In mmo games that kind of attitude is consider normal though, either she face reality and face it like a real man (girl) or take a break from mmo and play singleplayer games first, its the only choice i can see.

look at the bright side, consider it a life experience, if she can get behind it she can develop a strong will and it will be useful in the future later when she start going to be working in real life.

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I dont care whose fault it is, 1 wipe is a piss poor excuse to bully someone, stop trying to excuse it. I seriously doubt this 13 yr old is doing savages, so it was a wipe in a trial or dungeon. Mistakes happen all the time, if you simply can not stand one without being a dick then dont play games or socialize.

Ouch. If she does play again, have her try to do the Amaljaa beast tribe quest. Those quests inspired me that despite the fair-weather people out there and being outnumbered from time to time, the will to improve oneself in battle will be beneficial in the long run.

I suggest not to give up to easily either. Mistakes happen from time to time, and we can always learn from one way or another.

I started to play Diablo 1 online that I was 3. Following up Diablo 2, WoW, Dofus and many other online games.
Not a typo. I was literally three years old when i started to play computer games and online since I used to play with my grand-dad, still remember he helping me giving me Enigmas and other runewords in diablo 2 \o/.

Thing is, online has always been filled with people that feels free to bring down others because its just behind a screen, so they feel strong to talk like that. I'm sorry for your daughter and yes I do think the "cyberbullies" are a bad thing, but this ain't a case of cyberbullism, he just blamed her for an her mistake. Its not a matter of confidence but skills. I started to play very early, especially in WoW i was being blamed every so often, but the right approach i thought and i still think is to take it positively and step back and say "Yes i didn't do a good job, next time i'll get it". I'm really sorry for your daughter getting offended but that's not a case of cyberbullism, thats just someone making a rude comment, getting blamed and pointed in MMO's happens everyday to everyone of us, from having a bad day to being inexperienced and many other causes that other person that had a bit of a bad day or just likes to be a rude prick can't know, making one comment at a random does not qualify for bullying you out of it.
That being said, hope your daughter gets harder shell, online has never been a good place for a kid I best of all know it.