can we have 2nd raise ability via item ?

Raise in combat only for WHM is the correct path. Play better, dont die, and just raise if something go bad..

Out of combat u can raise just channging to CON/WHM.

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Originally Posted by ClearEnd

Never add skills that define a class to every other class out there. Never take away from a class like that

ex. Sorry Dragoon monk already has life surge and x x x we dont need you.
sorry blm gladiator has sleep dont need any cc etc

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wait are you complaining that you will have access to invigorate and keen flurry?

PS: Lifesurge is unique to LNC/DRG so no you wont be using it on PGL/MNK same with sleep being unique to CNJ.

PLD, WHM and BRD can Raise. WHM can Chainspell it. If you end up needing more raises than that, you deserve the wipe.

OR you can have your mates spend lots of seals on those potions from the GCs that revive.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

PLD, WHM and BRD can Raise. WHM can Chainspell it. If you end up needing more raises than that, you deserve the wipe.

OR you can have your mates spend lots of seals on those potions from the GCs that revive.

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or have a few people sans jobs in your pt.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

or have a few people sans jobs in your pt.

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No thanks :D.

If we're having to have classes mixed with jobs in our parties, something somewhere needs a fix.

I'll consider mixing classes with jobs to be training wheels for the transition at best. Never something expected to be done.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

No thanks :D.

If we're having to have classes mixed with jobs in our parties, something somewhere needs a fix.

I'll consider mixing classes with jobs to be training wheels for the transition at best. Never something expected to be done.

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You can shun legitimate strategy if you like, I'll use whatever strat works.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

You can shun legitimate strategy if you like, I'll use whatever strat works.

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It's against the design philosophy.

Of course you can use w/e you like. This is a case of "Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Regardless, with what we know already I can't think of a fight where I wouldn't rather use all jobs anyway.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

It's against the design philosophy.

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No it's not, you can unequip the soul crystal. I'm guessing that's by design.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

No it's not, you can unequip the soul crystal. I'm guessing that's by design.

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The design philosophy of jobs being for full parties and classes for solo and light parties.

Also, switching from class to job is treated as switching classes, and cannot be done while engaged.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

The design philosophy of jobs being for full parties and classes for solo and light parties.

Also, switching from class to job is treated as switching classes, and cannot be done while engaged.

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That's why you go into the fight prepared, with a couple people on classes before you start.