Isn't it safe to assume more wards have to be added?

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Originally Posted by Kleeya

Someone got a link to a reliable source about this Ishgard housing ? I keep seeing some people convinced that it will come, but the best i did see is SE saying something like "yes, we know that players want Ishgard to be more alive... yes, we know that players would like to live here..." when talking of the upcoming restoration. Not "yes there will be Ishgard housing in Shadowbringers". Did i miss something or are players hyping themselves too much on some rumors like the dancer being a healer ?

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

There's nothing but that small clip with the emphasis put on the "live in Ishgard" part that I know of. With the new expansion taking place in a different world, they may have wanted to keep player housing on the source world and the crafter/gatherer rebuilding process being Ishgard instead of something in the new area is probably their means of introducing the reasoning behind Ishgard suddenly having a home for adventurers. It's completely possible they're toying with us, but I do think they knew exactly what and how they were saying that bit on Ishgard.

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The Shadowbringers site updated on April 11th. In the section about the restoration of the Holy See it says we will get a new area/ neighborhood/ district depending on the translations (in all but the English translation). (translations courtesy of Google translate)

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French - A thousand years of war against the dragons have left deep scars on the walls of the Holy City and in the hearts of its inhabitants. This dark page is however turning, while the Ishgardais gradually learn to cohabit with their neighbors with scales. Symbol of this renewal, a brand new neighborhood will see the light of day. His name: Azurée.

Japanese - The dragon poetry war, which lasted for a thousand years, left a very deep scar in the religious city "Ishgard". But still, people are embroiled in accepting the change of harmony with the dragon and start moving toward tomorrow. It was such a time that the development of the new area "Shenten" was announced as a symbol of reconstruction.

German - The thousand-year-long Dragon War is over, but its traces are still visible in the holy city of Ishgard. The dragons and the Ishgarder have settled their dispute and are now working for a common future. A new district is to be built to bring prosperity and peace to the Holy City.

English - The Dragonsong War has long since ended, but its scars yet remain. As man and dragon work together to rebuild the Holy See, the people of Ishgard have come to find they want for helping hands...

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Originally Posted by MizArai

The Shadowbringers site updated on April 11th. In the section about the restoration of the Holy See it says we will get a new area/ neighborhood/ district depending on the translations (in all but the English translation). (translations courtesy of Google translate)

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None of that sounds like adding a housing district to me. It sounds more like just adding a new section to the city, such as a Jeweled Crozier.

It wouldn't make sense for a new district reserved as housing for foreigner adventurers to be embraced as any sort of positive symbol by the residents of Ishgard,

I don't doubt that there is some sort of housing planned. That comment during the NA FanFest was pretty pointed. I just don't think that page on the expac website is referring to it.

I did see that but not even talking of the english one, in the french version of the game the housing zones are always categorized as "résidentiels" ones, like "quartiers résidentiels" or "zones résidentielles", the second word meaning you can live in them. "Quartier" only could very well be adding a common town part like the doman enclave, where most of the reconstruction can be done, and that's it.

I also find it strange that since people are asking for Ishgard housing since a very long time, such a thing finally happenning isn't highlighted way more than that they are doing now with a few vague words. Or maybe it is not ready at all, hence the fact that we didn't even get some screenshots at a fanfest, and they keep such an announcement for way later.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

None of that sounds like adding a housing district to me. It sounds more like just adding a new section to the city, such as a Jeweled Crozier.

It wouldn't make sense for a new district reserved as housing for foreigner adventurers to be embraced as any sort of positive symbol by the residents of Ishgard,

I don't doubt that there is some sort of housing planned. That comment during the NA FanFest was pretty pointed. I just don't think that page on the expac website is referring to it.

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Originally Posted by Kleeya

I did see that but not even talking of the english one, in the french version of the game the housing zones are always categorized as "résidentiels" ones, like "quartiers résidentiels" or "zones résidentielles", the second word meaning you can live in them. "Quartier" only could very well be adding a common town part like the doman enclave, where most of the reconstruction can be done, and that's it.

I also find it strange that since people are asking for Ishgard housing since a very long time, such a thing finally happenning isn't highlighted way more than that they are doing now with a few vague words. Or maybe it is not ready at all, hence the fact that we didn't even get some screenshots at a fanfest, and they keep such an announcement for way later.

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I just know that's what people have been using as concrete proof around me. I agree with both of you, as it seemed a bit vague in my opinion, but my opinion seems rather unpopular most places. At some point I just keep my mouth shut while I smile and nod. ;-)

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Originally Posted by Gallus

"You can finally get a house now, we finally figured out how! The only requirements are that the player must not sleep and get Carpal Tunnel. But hey, here's the exciting part, even if you end up with both (which you will), there's still no guarante you'll get a house!".

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While I sympathize that this whole spamming torture must be awful, I feel like a lot of people here don't understand that the random timers were never meant to be a solution to the housing shortage. The random timer was a solution to house flipping which it sorta did, sorta did not as house flippers can still use relocation.

Whenever someone brings up a lottery system, someone chimes in saying that it won't fix the housing shortage. The random timer wasn't meant to fix the housing shortage and neither is the lottery system. The lottery system is meant to fix the random timer nightmare whilst still preventing house flipping.

I think having people sit there and spam plaquards for hours is a serious issue that needs to be addressed and lottery would help.

As far as housing shortage goes: since the wards have been added, there is no more housing shortage. This problem (including plaquard spamming) only exists on highly congested servers but not the game as a whole. If a house is so important that you would risk your health to get one, why not just transfer (or make an alt on another server)? That is what SE wants you to do. They want the population to be spread because congested servers cause them other issues as well. Additionally, having fewer houses then there is demand creates value in a game economy that is based on artificial supply and demand.

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Originally Posted by not_ya_wify

Additionally, having fewer houses then there is demand creates value in a game economy that is based on artificial supply and demand.

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I disagree with this point. Offering housing to all players will create demand on housing items, whether crafted or gained through other ingame means, which will boost the economy and market boards. Fewer houses means demand comes from those limited players who have access to them. It creates “housing demand”, which does nothing to the economy except people being sad and waiting to get a house which doesn’t move gil anywhere

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Originally Posted by not_ya_wify

If a house is so important that you would risk your health to get one, why not just transfer (or make an alt on another server)? That is what SE wants you to do. They want the population to be spread because congested servers cause them other issues as well. Additionally, having fewer houses then there is demand creates value in a game economy that is based on artificial supply and demand.

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Of course SE wants us to do this. They want to divide up everyone over different data centers and machines to lower costs. However, MMO is about the idea that you can play with, well, masses of people. Essentially going to low population servers is saying "I want to play this game single player". Servers are congested for a reason. People want more people to interact with and do content with and roleplay with, etc. They want friends!

And having fewer houses doesn't help any economy except SE not to have to have more data storage per server. Houses aren't traded by players and they aren't improving the trade between players in any way except carpenters. And it behooves carpenters to have MORE houses, not less.

Companies should cater to what the clients want, not the other way around. When people don't give companies money, they fix systems like this. It's why 1.0 got completely reworked into 2.0. 1.0 wasn't making money.

Even on standard worlds housing sucks to get. They really need to find a solution that can make the most if not all people happy. More wards, better apartments/instanced housing, something rather than this placard spam.

And why is lodestone showing my toon as an au ra? >.>

I get the feeling that SE is waiting for the dust to settle on the data center split and world visit changes to see where everyone ends up and what the supply and demand for housing looks like before they make any plans one way or another. I'm sure they're hoping that these changes will help to balance the world populations and ease the housing crunch a bit. Which... maybe. There still isn't enough housing for all players, obviously. The question is how much they're going to need to meet the demand of players who want it.

Ishgard housing is still up in the air. It's been rather heavily hinted at, so I think it's coming, but it remains to be seen whether or not that's true - and if it is coming, will it be another Shirogane bloodbath?

I really feel for the players suffering through the random timers. I wish we'd at least get a little note from SE that concerns are being heard. The silence is deafening.