Baldesion Arsenal and new ToS Combo

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Originally Posted by Leanna

So because NA players are savages without education the only way to do it is gating people out, pfft, pathetic XD

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No it's because most of them in NA are scared to step foot in BA randomly unless they know there's a group that knows how things are done so they try to sneak in. So many times I joined random groups to BA to have them just disband at the entrance because not enough is there.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Why haven't they cleared first then? BA is easy once you know how the fights go. Yet, it was NA that cleared and not JP or EU. Why? Because NA was the most organized they easily farmed fragments and the items to gear up for the fights to pass AV and Ozma's enrage. If you look at the world first clear, you'll see a lot wearing the FFXI gear.

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NA players only knew how to clear it after see the latest Japanese wipe, Japanese players cleared it next try.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

No it's because most of them in NA are scared to step foot in BA randomly unless they know there's a group that knows how things are done so they try to sneak in. So many times I joined random groups to BA to have them just disband at the entrance because not enough is there.

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You can't make the picture more pathetic, if it wasn't because everyone was watching the streams of Japanese players doing progression and discovering stuff, you basically say in NA you couldn't even dream of clear BA.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Why haven't they cleared first then? BA is easy once you know how the fights go. Yet, it was NA that cleared and not JP or EU. Why? Because NA was the most organized they easily farmed fragments and the items to gear up for the fights to pass AV and Ozma's enrage. If you look at the world first clear, you'll see a lot wearing the FFXI gear.

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Answer was in the text you quoted but i guess you didnt read it.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

And here's the thing, if it wasn't for a premade group in an instance, no one would bother touching BA, excpet a group or two. Now that a premade joined an instance, suddenly everyone wants and take a portal? What's the reason for that? Do they think they will be carried? The groups there have every right also to not invite you and leave you solo there and you'll risk deleveling. And if a tank spot was sniped and there are no 6 tanks, good luck progressing past rooms. So they basically destroyed the run.

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It only took a week to have an EU pug clear.But please lie more XD

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Originally Posted by Leanna

NA players only knew how to clear it after see the latest Japanese wipe, Japanese players cleared it next try.

You can't make the picture more pathetic, if it wasn't because everyone was watching the streams of Japanese players doing progression and discovering stuff, you basically say in NA you couldn't even dream of clear BA.

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JP and NA were watching each other streams. JP and NA were doing at the same time, because I was there watching both. NA did better, JP failed.

Do you really think that the only reason for NA to have a chance to clear in it's life time was because of JP? Can't argue more with you then, it's clearly a troll.

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

Answer was in the text you quoted but i guess you didnt read it.

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You need mandatory logograms and roles there, theres no way of casual clearing BA just right after entering. You can't change jobs there, need 6 tanks and no more. Did you even read the guide? Read first, then have an opinion

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

Japanese people are polete and respectful to others, a strong cultire in game. I can't say the same about NA.

And, are you a Japanese? Do you play there to say these kind of things?

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Tell that to the Japanese player who just jacked the portal I was waiting next to alone for 4 minutes. I was in a premade a couple of days ago, it was shouted out numerous times that it would be nice if PUGs could leave portals and a Japanese player jacked the portal I was camping solo anyways. They are not as polite as you think they are, and why would they be with such high personal gain on the line? As more people try to do BA and get frustrated and desperate to finish it, order continues to break down even further.

I tried to get into a BA group with my friend on a JP data center all of last night and it never worked out, one of us would always lose out on a portal even though we were being 'scum' and leaving Ovni early to try to first camp portals to be together.

I think BA itself is good content, but the entry system is flat out stupid and infuriating.

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

Answer was in the text you quoted but i guess you didnt read it.

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NA cleared before DF had problems. Did EU have problem before the 14th? And JP didn't have that problem and still haven't cleared it first. So the point still stands. Information alone won't help clear BA (And don't get me wrong, I'm not sayin NA players are the best) they were the most organized of the three. And information + organization = easy BA clear.

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

It only took a week to have an EU pug clear.But please lie more XD

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Where did I lie? Did I say pugs can't clear it? Don't put words that I didn't say in my mouth. They can if they have people that are well geared and know what they're doing. And this isn't the case in NA. Those who know the fight prefer joining with premades because they know they have a higher chance of clearing. So they don't join random pugs most of the times. So you have a higher chance of getting a party that can wipe.

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Originally Posted by Leanna

NA players only knew how to clear it after see the latest Japanese wipe, Japanese players cleared it next try. You can't make the picture more pathetic, if it wasn't because everyone was watching the streams of Japanese players doing progression and discovering stuff, you basically say in NA you couldn't even dream of clear BA.

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So? Are you saying that having a well organized group has by no means any effect on clearing? I guess it's time to do UCoB without a static lol.
Did I deny the use of the info they got from the streams had any value to them? And yet, it wasn't JP that cleared first. So again, information alone isn't enough for BA. I'm not comparing which DC is better than the other. The point (that I hope doesn't go flying by you again) is that organization matters and plays a role. And it shows why NA was first.

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Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

JP and NA were watching each other streams. JP and NA were doing at the same time, because I was there watching both. NA did better, JP failed.

Do you really think that the only reason for NA to have a chance to clear in it's life time was because of JP? Can't argue more with you then, it's clearly a troll.

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You did admit that yourself, not me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And anyone who watched the streams know that is true. Also has more merit and value that they pugged it while in NA you needed to organize the Ultimate raiders to have a chance.

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Originally Posted by Fiorinol

If I see someone with that attitude in-game, I'm just going to take their portal and do the content in their stead. You don't own the portals. Yet you call people neanderthals for not joining your "open to everyone" discord that requires people to sit around for hours instance hopping; you created that problem by stacking people onto servers.

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Neither do you. Purposely taking a portal with the intent to ruin a run after a premade says that they plan to run the content and asks players not to take portals from their group (be it a fragment run, or prog on AV/Ozma) is griefing, and you can be reported and punished for it. If you're looking to clear BA in its entirety, it's far more feasible to be in a group where everyone can communicate via voice chats, as you can't just type during mechanics that will one-shot you if you fail it. It's all about practicality - you don't even have to speak. I keep my mic muted every time I join one.

Seriously. These discords are designed to help people do this content. I'm in the NA one and they've done nothing but help me. A frag run even offered to turn into an AV prog run for us newbies that haven't been to AV one evening (sadly, the shark FATE was not defeated but it was still kind of them to offer that).

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Originally Posted by Leanna

Meanwhile Japanese players clear BA being pug friendly and letting everyone participate.

The end of times, apocalypse, madness, how they dare?! /s

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Last I heard, JP is not doing full random PUGs made in an instance. I've heard they enter the same way NA and EU do: via already formed premades.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Why haven't they cleared first then? BA is easy once you know how the fights go. Yet, it was NA that cleared and not JP or EU. Why? Because NA was the most organized they easily farmed fragments and the items to gear up for the fights to pass AV and Ozma's enrage. If you look at the world first clear, you'll see a lot wearing the FFXI gear.

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I was part of the group going for EU 1st during those days and i can tell you it is thanks to both NA and JP that we got the information for Raiden and AV but when we were trying to go for Ozma we lost 2 hours for df messing up and lost half the grps due to raiding and timezones as people needed sleep, then the very next day we lost another 5+ hours of ozma as earlier before df messed up we got ozma to 67% so we were well learning it so in all EU lost 3 to 4 Ozma pulls before NA got world 1st certainly EU could've gotten it but DF messed everything up so we'll never know how it would have gone, if they do this content again maybe both JP and NA can have the same problems while learning and see if they still get 1st eh?