DRK - Please add anti-knockback move

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Originally Posted by Tint

sounds good for me. i don't want to use my utility skills for damage anyway.

however, they should just increase the range already. getting pushed out of the range of plunge makes the gap closer almost useless...

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Plunge is like at least 2-3% of your dps alone, without even considering the additional MP it grants during Blood Weapon. I mean, why would you willingly and knowingly do less damage? It's literally 1 more button to push every 30 seconds. You wouldn't think it's acceptable for a DRG to not use Jump, would you? Or a SCH to forgo Energy Drain?

To put it into perspective, Plunge is 400 potency a minute. Carve and Spit is 450 potency a minute. You wouldn't ignore Carve and Spit, would you?

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

or just make Plunge match it's peer with Onslaught. sure WAR has holmgang, but that's just an additional effect to it's invuln skill.

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Assuming you mean 100pot/15s cd (same as Onslaught), you just essentially give drk extra 53-105potency/minute, if they run 11 or 12hit Delirium gcd, respectively.

But if you mean make Plunge cost 20blood gauge then congratulations you make DRK unplayable. Onslaught and Upheaval cost 20 because Path gives 20. Souleater gives 10.
And if you think buffing Souleater to give 20 is fine, it isnt. DRK already plays like a bad WAR, that would just cement it.

The only change Plunge needs is a much faster animation, like Shoulder Tackle or Onslaught.

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Originally Posted by Eyvhokan

Can it be put on Dark Mind?

...I'd rather it be DPS neutral (or slight loss, except it is a gain when it increases uptime), to be used as a mobility tool, and the overall damage be just rolled into a potency increase of heavy slash or something...

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I've actually been saying this..

• Make Dark Mind function as an anti-knockback, making it useful in situations when there will be no magical damage for 60s
• Reduce the potency of plunge to 100, making it less of a DPS loss when saved for utility. Increase Plunge range and reduce animation lock to match other gap closers.
• Add the potency taken from plunge to Dark Passenger, making it useful on single target.

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Originally Posted by Luin

Plunge is like at least 2-3% of your dps alone, without even considering the additional MP it grants during Blood Weapon. I mean, why would you willingly and knowingly do less damage? It's literally 1 more button to push every 30 seconds. You wouldn't think it's acceptable for a DRG to not use Jump, would you? Or a SCH to forgo Energy Drain?

To put it into perspective, Plunge is 400 potency a minute. Carve and Spit is 450 potency a minute. You wouldn't ignore Carve and Spit, would you?

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i think you don't understand my point.

of course i don't want to do LESS damage, but i also don't want to hold on Plunge to save it for knockbacks, since it's a dps loss right now.

i want to do my dps without worrying to waste my gap closer :O like they removed the damage from Stun and Silence.

they can simply remove the 200 potency here and put it to somewhere else, Dark Passenger for example xD

The only problem is it wouldn't make sense for plunge to do 0 damage, since it is a big overhead attack with a Greatsword. And there actually comes a point where increasing uptime is a gain vs a loss. So it depends on how much up to me you gain, and when. If DRK had a little more burst and less even DPS it would help with up time issues.

Can I have a gap closer for PLD in that case? Or would that be homogenizing?

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Originally Posted by Luin

Assuming you mean 100pot/15s cd (same as Onslaught), you just essentially give drk extra 53-105potency/minute, if they run 11 or 12hit Delirium gcd, respectively.

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I mean, if the whole complaint is that DRK doesn't do enough damage for the lack of utility it brings to a party, then why is them doing more damage a concern?